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Post by smittysgelato on May 20, 2023 18:55:16 GMT
Yes, it's true. I was born in 1990, the first three films had already been released by then and Indiana Jones just wasn't a thing when I grew up. Star Wars? Certainly. Harry Potter? Absolutely. LOTR? Sure. Raimi's Spider-Man? Yes. But Indiana Jones? Something known by name only, much like Star Trek or Back to the Future. Remnants of the past with no real relevance. I might have seen an episode of Young Indy when it was on TV in the 90s, but I am not sure. Is there an episode with a shrunken Indy or something like that? It was probably a different show I'm not sure most of today's kids even know Indiana Jones. In Europe, at least. The US might be different. I'm also a 90 baby, but it is thanks to some good parenting on my mom's part that I got to see so many great movies, including the Indy movies, growing up. She bought all sorts of VHS tapes. Furthermore, in Canada, plenty of movies that were popular in the 70's and 80's played over and over again on TV. In that regard, I was brought up on much the same entertainment as Gen X. Heck, my mom was even wise enough to throw some old Hollywood pictures into the mix. Movies like It's A Wonderful Life, The Wizard of Oz, and The Ten Commandments were movies I'd watch on a regular basis.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on May 20, 2023 19:00:32 GMT
I had a cool mom too. She encouraged me to watch and record the SW trilogy when it was on TV. Even though she doesnt like, care, or know anything about Star Wars.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on May 20, 2023 19:27:22 GMT
My mom also introduced me to Star Wars
I think we all have cool moms here
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Post by jppiper on May 23, 2023 0:42:45 GMT
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 17, 2023 1:01:38 GMT
To see this film, or not to see this film, that is the question.
On the one hand, I've never seen an Indie movie in the cinema. On the other, there's no Lucas, no Spielberg and we all know Disney don't give two damns about the integrity of beloved characters from film series they bought (no I will not use the stupid word "franchise", thank you very much).
The pull to go see it is very strong, I feel it. But then the burn from sitting through TROS still hurts, it is hard to forget bad experiences like that.
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Post by Ingram on Jun 17, 2023 2:57:36 GMT
To see this film, or not to see this film, that is the question. On the one hand, I've never seen an Indie movie in the cinema. On the other, there's no Lucas, no Spielberg and we all know Disney don't give two damns about the integrity of beloved characters from film series they bought (no I will not use the stupid word "franchise", thank you very much). The pull to go see it is very strong, I feel it. But then the burn from sitting through TROS still hurts, it is hard to forget bad experiences like that.
You must choose, but choose wisely. For to see this movie may bring you life, it may also take it from you. Seriously, though. Perhaps I'm being naive but I can't imagine this sinking anywhere to the crass level of the ST installments. Spielberg and Lucas were involved in the ancillary sense (I guess) while Mangold is respectably polished in general and, by at least one metric, more pliable to this series than either of the two filmmakers who helmed the aforesaid ST. I suspect it will at worst prove durably lite entertainment with a couple-three rough gems of concept & inspiration on par with Ron Howard's Solo. That ain't so bad.
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Post by smittysgelato on Jun 17, 2023 4:39:02 GMT
When I watch the trailers for this, there isn't really anything in it that screams that this is going to be a disaster.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Jun 17, 2023 13:53:22 GMT
The movie probably won’t be as good as the other 4 Indy films, but I doubt it will sink to the depths of the ST.
Frankly, I’ll see it to say a goodbye to Harrison. The man is 81 and once you hit the eighth floor it’s hard to know how much more time you will have on Earth.
It’s a shame that George and Steven were only involved in the preliminary stage, but the truth is both men are dedicated to more personal projects by now. I hope George gets to inaugurate the Lucas Museum in 2025
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 17, 2023 23:20:36 GMT
I think a big problem with pop culture fandoms today (read: YouTube channels) tends to be this understanding that a film can either be an absolute disaster or a heroic triumph. It can't be good, it can't be mediocre, it can't be poor, oh no, because it's either feast or famine. Sometimes a movie is just meh, and that's okay.
If, as Ingram suggests, the film is a rollicking good ol' ride, then that'll be something. All one wants is to be entertained.
Will that guy from Even Stevens be back for this, who was in Indie 4? I think he was Indie's son? Oh my, I could really do with re-watching the previous ones, if that'll be of help.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Jun 17, 2023 23:23:30 GMT
Shia La Beouf had a falling out with Spielberg many years ago; so no he’s not back
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 18, 2023 0:38:16 GMT
Yes, it's true. I was born in 1990, the first three films had already been released by then and Indiana Jones just wasn't a thing when I grew up. Star Wars? Certainly. Harry Potter? Absolutely. LOTR? Sure. Raimi's Spider-Man? Yes. But Indiana Jones? Something known by name only, much like Star Trek or Back to the Future. Remnants of the past with no real relevance. I might have seen an episode of Young Indy when it was on TV in the 90s, but I am not sure. Is there an episode with a shrunken Indy or something like that? It was probably a different show I'm not sure most of today's kids even know Indiana Jones. In Europe, at least. The US might be different.
Indeed. To judge from my own experience, the Star Wars fandom is on a whole different level over there, you have all these families into it, and for decades (comparable to a sports team). In my country, Ireland, much like your own I suppose, its more of a nerdy thing. My parents, for example, don't know anything about SW, while my siblings couldn't care less. And that's fine, we all have our own hobbies, we don't all have to like the same thing. But it did mean I had to discover Star Wars on my own (like Indie making a big discovery in the temple!)
I'm also a 90 baby, but it is thanks to some good parenting on my mom's part that I got to see so many great movies, including the Indy movies, growing up. She bought all sorts of VHS tapes. Furthermore, in Canada, plenty of movies that were popular in the 70's and 80's played over and over again on TV. In that regard, I was brought up on much the same entertainment as Gen X. Heck, my mom was even wise enough to throw some old Hollywood pictures into the mix. Movies like It's A Wonderful Life, The Wizard of Oz, and The Ten Commandments were movies I'd watch on a regular basis. I'm a 90s kid too. Good prequelists, we tend to be. The 70s crowd were the core of the hatred towards the PT. Back in those basher days, it was also common for a person born after ROTJ to pretend to be of the "Original Trilogy Generation", when in reality Episode I was the first SW they got to see on the big screen. Pathetic behaviour.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 22, 2023 13:55:29 GMT
Now, online, they're all saying Disney has destroyed Indiana Jones.
But hold on a second...
Isn't that the same thing you were saying back in 2008, but with Lucas?
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Jun 30, 2023 11:29:19 GMT
Ingram we need your review my friend
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Post by Ingram on Jun 30, 2023 18:45:47 GMT
Ingram we need your review my friend
I won't be seeing the film until sometime next week, due to work and a woman. If anyone else is encouraged to share their takeaways, I ask only that spoilers be stressed.
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Post by smittysgelato on Jun 30, 2023 19:37:40 GMT
I might see this when I am on vacation later in July, but if not I won't see it until it streams.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Jun 30, 2023 19:40:42 GMT
I'll see it tomorrow but won't share spoilers. After all, I don't think these forums have the spoiler tag option
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Jun 30, 2023 22:16:42 GMT
I want to see it. But Im not in a hurry.
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Post by Samnz on Jul 1, 2023 12:32:54 GMT
Probably going to fall out of favour with Ingram now, because I've caught up on Indiana Jones and while I enjoyed them just finde, I've not become a fan. I'd rank them like this: 1. Raiders of the Lost ArkIt's a good movie, well made and fairly interesting over its complete runtime. The opening is great. What's missing is a truly memorable villain, I think. 2. Kingdom of the Crystal SkullDon't get the hate for this movie. I think it had some originality and the alien idea felt more grounded than that hocus-pocus of other entries. 3. The Last CrusadeThat could have ended up on 4th place if Sean Connery and Nick Gillard weren't in it. 4. Temple of DoomI like the idea of this one, I just didn't enjoy the execution very much. The first third was fairly interesting and I like the action of the last third. But the middle part? Not my cup of tea. I will probably wait for the 5th part to be available on Streaming, especially since neither Lucas nor Spielberg are involved anymore.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Jul 1, 2023 12:50:32 GMT
My honest appraisal is that Raiders is easy to underrate nowadays, but for a film of its time, it is unmatched. Every moment is pure movie magic, not a moment is wasted. Temple of Doom is inspired, and also a magnificent product of its time, when Lucas and Spielberg were at their most powerful. Last Crusade is a feel-good conclusion, but boring in comparison. A good father-son sentimentality and dynamic, but not as creative or spontaneous or exciting as the first two. Crystal Skull has a lot of style, but the plot feels empty and lil buddy boy Indie junior also falls flat. I appreciate the humor and whimsy, and cant actually rate it lower than Last Crusade. Russian babe? Yes pls thx. Her predidtable demise? Give us one more. Im not expecting more from Dial of Destiny, but I guess my anus is more than prepared for whatever they came up with. Lucas didnt look happy at all at the premier, from what I saw.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Jul 2, 2023 1:47:06 GMT
Frankly, Dial of Destiny isn't worth the Indy name. Skip it for streaming, if you see it at all.
It's not terrible in the way the ST is, but much like it, feels like a disjointed chimera that isn't really a sequel to the bigger picture in any way, shape or form. Which is a shame, because I think James Mangold is a far better director than either JJ Abrams or Rian Johnson, but you can't turn Indy into Logan
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