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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 6, 2022 20:13:01 GMT
For me, Indy and Star Wars do many of the same things. However, Star Wars does it at a more epic scale with more whiz-bang pew-pew flourishes.
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Post by Somny on Dec 6, 2022 21:20:49 GMT
For me, Indy and Star Wars do many of the same things. However, Star Wars does it at a more epic scale with more whiz-bang pew-pew flourishes. Ever since Rinzler talked about GL referring to SW as "his onion" and Indiana Jones as decidedly not, I've seen Indiana Jones a little bit differently. Still, I wore out my letterbox VHS tapes of the trilogy when I was a teenager and I will never disavow that past obsession.
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 6, 2022 21:56:00 GMT
I don't think you need to disavow that obsession because Indy is still a mind-blowing experience.
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Post by Somny on Dec 6, 2022 22:34:21 GMT
I don't think you need to disavow that obsession because Indy is still a mind-blowing experience. True. And GL shat it out like nothing at the beach on a lazy afternoon with Steven Spielberg. I'm honestly afraid of knowing about all the unrealized projects GL will take to the grave with him.
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Post by Ingram on Dec 6, 2022 23:50:15 GMT
For me, Indy and Star Wars do many of the same things. However, Star Wars does it at a more epic scale with more whiz-bang pew-pew flourishes. Ever since Rinzler talked about GL referring to SW as "his onion" and Indiana Jones as decidedly not, I've seen Indiana Jones a little bit differently.
They're cousins. The cross-pollination is manifest but they do ultimately settle for separate dispositions. Star Wars was always destined through amorphous stages to be or become this pièce de résistance with more moving parts, which has proved both its strength and weakness limitation. Being almost entirely in Draftsman Lucas' head it is more codependent upon abstract concepts & intentions, one part comic "space movie" the other part—a multitude of parts: Campbellian coding and arcane metaphysics and increasingly eccentric aesthetics reaching as far back and far out as Silent Film era expressionism and glyphic cave art reimagined through cinema pop-art. It's a tad corruptible in this respect; not right-vs-wrong, but a thing so big and shifting that is prone to countless little fractures. The Prequel Trilogy is as disharmonious with the Original Trilogy as it is harmonious and so too, even, are the installments within each respectively, at certain lengths (to say nothing of animated spinoffs, the EU...and Disney). Such is not a criticism but rather what I love about the Saga. Yet it also demands a particular mindset from audiences that audiences haven't always been willing to meet, and in turn has always been that much more removed from its elemental roots in Saturday matinee modesty ...enter: Indiana Jones.
Beginning with Raiders of the Lost Ark but also establishing a continuum, the Indy series was never meant to be a masterpiece from Lucas nor especially Spielberg. It was the latter shedding in semi-regular intervals haughtier ambitions and much of his self-importance to simply perform as a filmmaking mechanism, driven forward more purely by his best instincts for pulp thrills and 'cowboy action' showmanship. Lucas meanwhile just got to sit back in his brainstorming chair and conjure up boyish adventure serial storylines and watch buddy Steven execute them onto celluloid. He "just wanted to see them get made" as he often says about the franchise regarding everything he loved as a kid. So there is for me a comparably more unstudied fidelity to the Indiana Jones movies while therein still replete with top-form artistry and thematic wit. They're more at ease with their internal ingenuity.
That's one reason, anyways. The other reason is that my proclivity towards space opera was never quite as innate as my proclivity towards 20th-century period earthly escapism. Ghost stories, horses and fisticuffs, globetrotting, old dusty places, Eastern exoticism, Nazi femme fatales, jumping onto the hood of a speeding truck... Basically, passport adventure through the eyes of a juvenile.
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 6, 2022 23:58:03 GMT
Still the hottest Indy girl.
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 7, 2022 2:34:43 GMT
I was browsing Youtube today and OH BOY, the hate-bait this movie is getting is giving me flashbacks to The Rings of Power. o___0
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 7, 2022 2:41:03 GMT
Youtube, a summary in 12 seconds:
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Dec 10, 2022 2:34:32 GMT
It looks like such a barefaced, wannabe Game of Thrones, with money pumped in, left, right and centre, like it was growing on trees; or like a model who has overdone it on botox. Then you've got all those preachy adds, begging you to watch it.
No thanks!
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 10, 2022 2:38:09 GMT
It doesn't feel like Game of Thrones at all to me. The only similarity is that they are both high-fantasy Tv-series. And I didn't see the ads. I just watched the show itself. Advertising in general is obnoxious so I can imagine what you are saying is true.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Dec 11, 2022 12:23:57 GMT
Shall we set up a thread for the Indiana OT or all the 4 films produced by Lucas? Or a thread for each one?
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Post by jppiper on Dec 11, 2022 16:00:40 GMT
ArchdukeOfNabooNo offence but the first 3 Indy films aren't a Trilogy they're all stand-alone films
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Dec 11, 2022 19:57:41 GMT
I think a thread for each one could work
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Post by Ingram on Dec 11, 2022 21:17:26 GMT
In all honesty, this very thread simply being reworked into a general all-purpose Indiana Jones thread I think would do just fine. Despite its lifespan, the series from start to its upcoming 5th installment is fairly containable as a discussion, where bouncing between one film or another scarcely equates some topical rift and thus in my mind, anyways, is of no concern.
If that's not possible then I would argue no more than one other thread committed to the four previous Lucasberg installments.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Dec 11, 2022 22:33:53 GMT
Wait, I was reading around wikipedia last night, and I thought Indie 5 is also being produced by GL. Am I mistaken?
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Post by Ingram on Dec 12, 2022 3:12:19 GMT
Wait, I was reading around wikipedia last night, and I thought Indie 5 is also being produced by GL. Am I mistaken? That's certainly news to me. As the article states, this marks the first Disney-era Lucasfilm production with George Lucas himself receiving a formal credit. I speculate however if much of said credit is just that: a formality ...with a dash of story-consultant-paprika. But I could be wrong. Who knows. Perhaps the Macguffin, partially or as a conceit whole unto itself, at least, was among many that he (and others) threw into the pot. Or maybe it was the moon landing lore. Probably whichever component receives the most flack. I must say, I am warming up a bit to the somewhat quotidian title 'Dial of Destiny'. It doesn't quite pop with menace or weirdness or religious historia as do the others, but it does have a slight dorky point-and-click adventure gameplay charm to it.
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Post by Ingram on Dec 12, 2022 4:49:44 GMT
The more I think about it, frankly, the title of this movie literally just translates to: Indiana Jones and the Thing of Importance. It does have the honor of being the first Indiana Jones movie named after a hand soap. So, that's a win.
Some of my alternative pitches:
Indiana Jones and the Lever of Lifeforces Indiana Jones and the Knob of Knowledge Indiana Jones and the Egg-Timer of Eternity Indiana Jones and the Thermostat of Thermopylae Indiana Jones and the Speedometer of Sargon the Great Indiana Jones and the On/Off Switch of Omnipotence in the Off-Switch Position
Am rather fond of that last one.
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Post by Subtext Mining on Dec 12, 2022 13:37:34 GMT
I'm honestly afraid of knowing about all the unrealized projects GL will take to the grave with him. I know. And even the ones he has made or is making (?) that we still won't see. He said he sold SW so he could make other kinds of films, that "nobody will want to see." Umm........ I.... do.....
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Apr 7, 2023 12:35:02 GMT
Ingram return from your self imposed exile… we have a new trailer!
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Post by smittysgelato on Apr 7, 2023 19:42:54 GMT
Mads is bringing a lot to this movie.
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