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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 25, 2023 19:17:56 GMT
I tried to watch the first episode and it didn't really grab me. I think I'll have to rewatch Rebels before embarking on with this new series. Call on me when Anakin makes an appearance. Then I'll come running. Filoni directed the first episode, the rest are directed by other directors with the exception of Episode 5. So my guess is we will get Anakin in Episode 5 because Filoni will probably want to handle that personally. |
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 26, 2023 1:37:14 GMT
I loved that Ahsoka walked away from Sabine because that opens up some interesting directions for the story. Ahsoka walking away from Anakin was the right thing to do, so it is like Ahsoka thought that same decision would work again in a seemingly identical context, but lo and behold, falling back on previously correct behavior didn't work a second time. It hints that there might be something unresolved between her and Anakin too.
Although it is weird that she did this again with Sabine despite telling Vader in the Rebels episode "Twilight of the Apprentice:" "I won't leave you. Not this time." That kinda suggests she resolved things, but....
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 26, 2023 15:55:29 GMT
I watched it, and like a lot of Disney+ SW, it's really beautiful. The music is what makes it stand out for me. Kiner has captured the tones and rhythms of the film scores, but referenced some musical phrases gracefully and without outright lifting them. The cast are all great actors, and the dialog feels authentic. I would go as far as saying he's as good as the stuff Williams produced for the ST. Well below what we had in the OT and PT, but still miles above what we got in Kenobi. On the other hand, the story beats sound too familiar to TFA, where you find a map that leads to a lost Jedi.
I concur completely. It is a McGuffin style storyline, isn't it? Moreover, there is a lot of mystery being brewed up, especially around Ahsoka, that I'm left wondering if they'll ever be able to answer it all. The Mystery Box backfired in the ST: so much was never addressed until very late, and what was was usually done so half-arsed. I'm doubtful with all the focus on the Sabine character, who has no charisma about her, and is cosplaying as a Mandolarian by the send of the 2nd episode.
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 26, 2023 20:01:47 GMT
Sabine's live-action armour definitely looks like a costume. Compare that to Mando's armour, which looks very authentic. And yes, I noticed the similarities to TFA. Sabine's lightsaber duel is a reprise of Kylo Vs. Rey. Like Kylo Ren, Sabine has not finished her training, so she gets her ass handed to her by the Not-Sith Apprentice (much like Luke in Empire). There were some visual touches in the duel that also recall TFA duel. But hey, Baylan Skoll is very much a reprisal of Count Dooku. In the trailer he says to Ahoksa, "Anakin spoke very highly of you," which recalls Dooku's line to Kenobi, "Qui-Gon always spoke very highly of you." Star Wars is like poetry. It rhymes.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 26, 2023 20:22:00 GMT
The lightsabres look far more like the PT, you have to give them that. And the style of combat the same with (so far) none of those moody flamethrower-like yokes of the ST, with its wild swings going nowhere.
Kenobi gave us the glow-in-the-dark poles. I'm glad to see that not being continued, well done to Filoni.
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 26, 2023 20:24:54 GMT
The visual cues I am talking about are the reflection of the lights in the character's eyes and on their faces when they lock blades. Of course, Filoni appears to be willing to take ingredients from all eras of Star Wars.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 26, 2023 20:39:51 GMT
Filoni directed the first episode, the rest are directed by other directors with the exception of Episode 5. So my guess is we will get Anakin in Episode 5 because Filoni will probably want to handle that personally.
But I believe he wrote all the episodes? For television, in comparison to film, we must be mindful that the balance of creative control veers more towards the writer(s) than the director. This is why we have titles like showrunner, it is the position of the person who is charged with leading the writers of a programme, usually being the primary one him/herself.
I trust Filoni to handle Anakin very well. He has been showing patience with the way the first two episodes went, slowly building up the plot. If I had to guess how the Chosen One will be involved I would go for completing Ahsoka's training from the netherworld of the Force. Johnson has already opened up this door - this more proactive appearance of the Force Ghosts - with his use of Yoda in TLJ. I believe that voiceover in the trailer is in real-time, its not from a Clone Wars flashback.
I still hope for Clone Wars flashbacks of course. But they're not a hurry to bring them out as yet. I had no issues with Anakin's writing in Kenobi, I mean he hardly had a few words whether in the Vader suit or not. In this series it's going to be much more meatier, buckle up, folks!
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 26, 2023 20:59:10 GMT
Yes. Filoni did write all of the episodes, but the fact he is directing Episode 5 does suggest that the most meaty Anakin material may appear in that episode. That isn't to say there couldn't be more material in other episodes.
This is very astute. We can assume that Ahsoka couldn't finish Sabine's training because she didn't finish her own. Likewise, even though Anakin was a Jedi Knight, he too could not finish Ahsoka's training because he fell to the dark side. Only now can he complete that unfinished work now that the Jedi has indeed Returned.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 26, 2023 21:13:17 GMT
I notice some fans are asking "where is Luke?!".
Hold your horses. Let's be wary that, from what we're told in the opening crawl, this series takes place sometime shortly after the downfall of Palpatine and the Galactic Empire. Does Ahsoka know Luke then? Hardly, but she may well have heard of him if Luke has becomes a celebrity in the Galaxy. So who then does she know? Anakin. Conversations between her and the Force Ghost of Anakin are what would lend weight to the storyline - there is a history between the old master and apprentice.
We can come to her meeting Luke after that.
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 27, 2023 0:20:01 GMT
From what I heard, this first season of Ahsoka takes place during the events depicted in Season 3 of The Mandalorian. So yeah, she has met Luke already.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 27, 2023 1:40:02 GMT
Why would it occur at the same time as season three of The Mandalorian?! That strikes me as very odd. You're telling Ahsoka's story, have it straight after the conclusion of the OT, so the story can focus purely on her. Otherwise you get shuffled into somebody else's story.
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 27, 2023 2:34:54 GMT
The final scenes of Rebels take place at the end of the Galactic Civil War. At that time Sabine and Ahsoka are together, but according to Sabine at the beginning of Ahsoka, she hasn't seen Ahsoka in years. So yeah, it is quite some time after the OT. And of course, all of these shows are going to come together. Ahsoka's story has already been intertwined with the Mandalorians since The Clone Wars.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 27, 2023 22:13:43 GMT
intertwined with the Mandalorians since The Clone Wars.
There was only one show then: The Clone Wars. It's a different situation now. I don't understand why Disney is funding shows like Bobba Fett that nobody wanted, it is only diluting the prestige of the mythology.
This series is odd - we all went into it with this hype about flashbacks. Low and behold, we're getting none of it, and its become the Ahsoka and Butch programme instead.
If the production values weren't so high, if there wasn't a director I've so much faith in leading, I'm not sure I'd still be watching. On the face of it, it's not a story I terribly care about, it's like Bobba Fett's adventures #77.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 28, 2023 0:38:02 GMT
The fans definitely wanted the Boba Fett show. What they got, is another matter.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 28, 2023 13:35:54 GMT
The fans definitely wanted the Boba Fett show. What they got, is another matter.
Wasn't he suppose to be dead? I didn't notice much support for the idea online.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 28, 2023 13:49:14 GMT
The fans definitely wanted the Boba Fett show. What they got, is another matter.
Wasn't he suppose to be dead? I didn't notice much support for the idea online.
Fans never accepted that he died. Obi-Wan and Boba Fett were both very popular ideas for movies, but we got TV. Solo, not so much. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 28, 2023 15:17:52 GMT
Wasn't he suppose to be dead? I didn't notice much support for the idea online.
Fans never accepted that he died. Really? You included? Who else here on the forum never accepted it? It strikes me as a strange complaint, but then again I'm of the PT generation, so I can't fully identify with the OT crowd when they talk about their admiration for the character. |
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 28, 2023 18:36:02 GMT
I thought the way Boba Fett went out was wonderfully dissonant. A total badass goes out like a clutz. It highlights how Star Wars doesn't always take itself seriously. That being said, I really enjoyed the Boba Fett show. So, whatever.
This description makes me like Ahsoka and The Mandalorian even more, hahaha.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 29, 2023 0:40:25 GMT
Ahoksa (note to spellchecker: stop correcting me to Ashoka) is turning out to be very female-centric. I'm all for women's spaces, they deserve to have TV and films that address their sex's issues, but in Star Wars - a traditionally male nerd supported mythology - I must be honest with you, it doesn't gel so well for me. I still have interest in pursuing the next episode, as I know Anakin has some involvement and nothing gets me more passionate than that, but I don't know for how long more.
The programme is really well made, I couldn't ask for a better composer, a more fitting director, and yet it's all about a bunch of females. There is one male (bit player) character so far and we know he dies in real life. I feel like a Minneapolis Lakers fan after his team has moved to Los Angeles, if that makes any sense. I'm trying my best to keep interested but there's only so much I can do.
Can we get a balance of the sexes, Kathleen? That would be nice.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 29, 2023 7:18:31 GMT
Ahsoka, the character, was created to appeal to girls. It makes sense that her show would feature more women. Plus, that sorta seems to be the direction the franchise is going for, and has been since 2008.
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