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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 19, 2022 23:47:14 GMT
I enjoy Mangold's movies, but not as much as Spielberg or Lucas. So I expect a pretty good movie, at least.
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Post by Ingram on Nov 21, 2022 2:45:18 GMT
 So, it sounds like Indy will be caught up in the Space Race circa 1969, involving the moon landing and ex-Nazi scientists working for NASA. |
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 21, 2022 3:29:24 GMT
Nazis sure are a persistent bunch.
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Post by jppiper on Nov 26, 2022 18:47:10 GMT
Now i'm afraid they'll promote Indy 5 at the expense of KOTCS like how they promoted TFA at the expense of the prequels
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Post by Ingram on Nov 26, 2022 21:56:17 GMT
Now i'm afraid they'll promote Indy 5 at the expense of KOTCS like how they promoted TFA at the expense of the prequels
Particularly in the comment section.
But the general tenor of the article indeed feels repetitive. While I'm happy to hear that Mangold was quick to shut down any notions of the Volume FX process, such almost seems like a gimme in that Indiana Jones was always slightly more in the ilk of James Bond as real world travelogue adventures versus, say, an obvious comparison to Star Wars. The only one hurtle is that they're period films which means period set dressing and costuming your extras etc., which can be expensive. Upon closer inspection one can see how careful the filmmakers were with the previous entries when choosing locations and building exteriors either rustic or quaintly preserved, right down to what is kept just out of frame, and where the majority of period illusion was simply done on sound stages. Yes, Indy 5 will be shooting in all these fancy locations but you could safely bet a vital organ that copious amounts of digital manipulation will be employed to doctor background vistas or remove any lingering pesky modernity from a shot. And that's fine.
The flipside is that while they're set in our reality-based 20th century history, make no mistake, the Indiana Jones films have always plainly been FX films with heavy post-production phases: bluescreens, photo-optic composites, matte paints, scaled models, the works. And much of it ambitious or innovative such as the sheer complexity of the mine cart chase in Temple of Doom or the early digital rendering that aided Donovan's demise in Last Crusade. So not merely FX films by necessity but, at length, in the spirit of 'movie magic' entertainment that so readily maintained a sense of awe back in the 1980s. It's an aspect of the franchise I hope doesn't get memory-holed or glazed over by Mangold and Co. for the sake of trendy promotional posturing.
As for Crystal Skull, its sensibility (even its methodology) with visual FX was principally no different to that of its predecessors. If Team Lucasberg had digital tools at their disposal back in 1981, they certainly would've used it for Ark phantoms vaporizing Nazis and whatnot.
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Post by jppiper on Nov 26, 2022 23:03:13 GMT
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Post by jppiper on Nov 26, 2022 23:14:56 GMT
Also this is supposedly the official title
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Post by Ingram on Nov 27, 2022 3:01:47 GMT
Meh. In line with the Prequels, I stopped bothering with this type of "entertainment journalism" rhetoric years ago (for the most part). Also this is supposedly the official title If true, it would fit a) with what almost certainly involves some kinda temporal flux story premise, and b) in an equally meta sense involving an Indy flashback and Ford's de-aging. It could also just be an omitted title thought here to be the official, or a goofy rumor made up altogether. |
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Post by jppiper on Dec 1, 2022 21:13:25 GMT
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Dec 1, 2022 21:24:07 GMT
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 1, 2022 21:50:39 GMT
I don't know how it is on your guys' end, but for me, that Youtube compression is brutalizing the video quality on this trailer.
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Post by Ingram on Dec 1, 2022 22:22:01 GMT
I don't know how it is on your guys' end, but for me, that Youtube compression is brutalizing the video quality on this trailer. Yeah. It might have to do with a hasty upload or number of flooding views.
Anyhow,
Seeing Indiana Jones presented with such modern movie gloss is certainly something...else. Long gone are the days of that old Hollywood, rustic Doug Slocombe look. But I'm okay with that, mostly; expecting otherwise would be to expect too much and I suppose Crystal Skull acted as something of a buffer. I'm sure many will be quick to pounce on what this teaser alone already exhibits as having liberal doses of CGI, ready to write it off via much of the same criticisms obtusely squared at, again, Crystal Skull. This too I was fairly prepped for, and addressed as much with a defense in my previous post. I mean, shit, it looks like they're giving us something with heroes rollicking their way through varied and lively venues, and with the promise of something ancient and particularly weird (which is good—weird is good). That's all these movies are: "stupid" serial cliffhangers bent towards the sacred & profane. I just hope Mangold and his writers a) maintain a gold vein of inspired thematic wit that has run consistently through all four previous installments and b) abstain from drawing, contriving, parallels between storied premises/characters and current-year fashionable progressivism, at least to degrees that are ride-halting obnoxious.
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 1, 2022 22:24:16 GMT
Yes. Lift me out of my everyday world instead of slamming me straight back into it, please!
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Post by Ingram on Dec 1, 2022 22:35:06 GMT
Yes. Lift me out of my everyday world instead of slamming me straight back into it, please! It would definitely constitute a sour perversion of the franchise if they proceed otherwise. So far, however, I'm not feeling that vibe. So far.
Aside from the movie itself in full, one last unknown I'm anticipating is the eventual Drew Struzan poster. They had better not cop-out with some lesser imitation like they did with the ST.
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Post by jppiper on Dec 1, 2022 22:39:02 GMT
Ingram I only hope they don't ruin the ending of KOTCS like they did with ROTJ (but they probably will)
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 1, 2022 22:45:58 GMT
Ingram I only hope they don't ruin the ending of KOTCS like they did with ROTJ (but they probably will) The tone of the trailer very much has a: "the old days are gone, but we are going to reclaim them with one last hurrah" kind of a vibe. So...does that mean he and Marion broke up Leia and Han style? I mean, she doesn't seem to be attached to this movie so that could very well be the case. |
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Post by Ingram on Dec 1, 2022 22:48:49 GMT
Ingram I only hope they don't ruin the ending of KOTCS like they did with ROTJ (but they probably will) The tone of the trailer very much has a: "the old days are gone, but we are going to reclaim them with one last hurrah" kind of a vibe. So...does that mean he and Marion broke up Leia and Han style? I mean, she doesn't seem to be attached to this movie so that could very well be the case.
Best guess, she passed away while Mutt was killed in Vietnam. We're not seeing Jones saddled with a romantic interest, so that's a good sign.
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Post by jppiper on Dec 1, 2022 22:52:14 GMT
IngramTo me that reeks of Happy Ending Override like what they did with the OT
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Post by smittysgelato on Dec 1, 2022 23:07:16 GMT
The tone of the trailer very much has a: "the old days are gone, but we are going to reclaim them with one last hurrah" kind of a vibe. So...does that mean he and Marion broke up Leia and Han style? I mean, she doesn't seem to be attached to this movie so that could very well be the case.
Best guess, she passed away while Mutt was killed in Vietnam. We're not seeing Jones saddled with a romantic interest, so that's a good sign.
Dark. But, it could work. |
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Post by Ingram on Dec 1, 2022 23:22:02 GMT
Ingram To me that reeks of Happy Ending Override like what they did with the OT
*shrugs*
It's functional, though. I mean, you can't have a 5th installment if the happy ending from the previous was a permanent ending. Even in this escapism movieverse loved ones die. It's not like they're squarely reneging a heroic arc of Indiana Jones like they did with Han and Luke simply because he loses his family to the varying inevitability of mortality.
"Life goes on, Indy." - Sallah, Raiders of the Lost Ark
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