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Post by jppiper on Sept 23, 2020 13:08:15 GMT
Admin note: This thread is the designated place for posting one-off links to articles, videos and comments of people griping about some element(s) of Star Wars from the Lucas era, that would otherwise derail or stop the conversational flow of other threads.Brighter Than Coruscant is supposed to be a pro-prequel place but two posts sound anti-prequel to me at least the first one being what would you change about the prequels and it's the usual crap the prequel hating crowd complain about anakin should have been older remove TPM (which sounds like the machete order) put dooku in TPM because he appears out of nowhere in AOTC (isn't that what they did with Yoda in TESB? nobody complains about that) Maul should last through the whole trilogy have the clone wars start in episode 1 get rid of the subplot about anakin's mother Have dooku being killed by anakin later in ROTS Switching his death for Grievous at the beginning of the film (did they forget that Christopher Lee was in his 80's at the time). www.reddit.com/r/BrighterThanCoruscant/comments/iqdu2b/whats_one_thing_you_would_change_in_the_prequels/Then there's the more recent one called do you think the Prequels would've been better as a TV series with complaints that some one should have reigned Lucas in ROTS should have been two Movies complaining about anakin whining (did fans forget about Luke whining in the OT?)we already have that series it's called The Clone Wars i'll provide links to both pieces in the next post. www.reddit.com/r/BrighterThanCoruscant/comments/iy33h4/do_you_think_the_prequels_wouldve_been_better_as/IF THESE FANS WANT A TV SHOW WATCH THE CLONE WARS THERE'S ALSO BOOKS COMICS VIDEO GAMES AND THE 2-D SERIES LUCAS NEVER PLANNED TO TELL THE CLONE WARS IN THREE MOVIES AS USUAL THE FANS WHINE WHEN THEY DON'T GET THEIR WAY THAT'S WHY THE FRANCHISE IS IN THE SH**TER NOW BECAUSE LUCAS HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR CRAP AND SOLD THE FRANCHISE TO DISNEY AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT! SORRY FOR THE RANT.
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Post by Cryogenic on Sept 24, 2020 4:13:38 GMT
IF THESE FANS WANT A TV SHOW WATCH THE CLONE WARS THERE'S ALSO BOOKS COMICS VIDEO GAMES AND THE 2-D SERIES LUCAS NEVER PLANNED TO TELL THE CLONE WARS IN THREE MOVIES AS USUAL THE FANS WHINE WHEN THEY DON'T GET THEIR WAY THAT'S WHY THE FRANCHISE IS IN THE SH**TER NOW BECAUSE LUCAS HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR CRAP AND SOLD THE FRANCHISE TO DISNEY AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT! SORRY FOR THE RANT. Oddly, you've just described the way I feel, in general terms, toward people endlessly complaining about the Disney movies, too. Is the franchise in a worse place now? You know what: I don't know and I don't care. I just like what I like. But Star Wars fans have been a handwringing and backbiting lot ever since the Special Editions came out. You can blame Disney for the present state of things if you wish, but you can't honestly deny complaining isn't in Star Wars fans' natures. A lot of fans seem to thrive on detraction more than celebration. |
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Post by Subtext Mining on Nov 16, 2020 21:51:49 GMT
This thread is the designated place for posting one-off links to articles, videos and comments of people griping about some element(s) of Star Wars, that would otherwise derail or stop the conversational flow of other threads.
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Post by Ingram on Nov 17, 2020 4:12:45 GMT
I haven't any such content. I just wanted to 'slow-clap' applaud you for your thread title.
My proposed sub-header for this thread: "Whaats the situation, Captain?"
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 17, 2020 6:05:30 GMT
I haven't any such content. I just wanted to 'slow-clap' applaud you for your thread title. The hilarious thing is: it appears to be slightly RedLetterMedia-inspired. (For the net-culture illiterate -- though that wouldn't be you, Ingram!) General Grievance. That's their epithet for Grievous in their ROTS review. |
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Post by Subtext Mining on Nov 17, 2020 12:41:25 GMT
I had forgotten about RLM saying that, but in my defense I thought of it back in 2005. Then again, it's a no-brainer.
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 17, 2020 13:39:56 GMT
I had forgotten about RLM saying that, but in my defense I thought of it back in 2005. Then again, it's a no-brainer. Well, here's an alternate name if you want one: Jiggly Grievances (link grabby bits). |
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Post by jppiper on Nov 18, 2020 9:48:08 GMT
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Post by jppiper on Nov 20, 2020 2:45:00 GMT
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Post by mikeximus on Nov 20, 2020 4:38:06 GMT
This headline has been popping up all over the internet the last few days. Everyone’s doing some kind of story on it. This one makes its rounds every 5 or 6 years. It’s funny because the people putting the article out there think they’re justifying in doing so because the fox execs were right, but clearly they weren’t. TPM went on to become a huge success, and AOTC and ROTS Went on to do extremely well at the box office as well, with ROTS constantly being polled as the 2nd best Star Wars movie, before Dusney anyway. Not sure where it polls now. So Star Wars was hardly “destroyed”. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 20, 2020 7:36:52 GMT
This headline has been popping up all over the internet the last few days. Everyone’s doing some kind of story on it. This one makes its rounds every 5 or 6 years. It’s funny because the people putting the article out there think they’re justifying in doing so because the fox execs were right, but clearly they weren’t. TPM went on to become a huge success, and AOTC and ROTS Went on to do extremely well at the box office as well, with ROTS constantly being polled as the 2nd best Star Wars movie, before Dusney anyway. Not sure where it polls now. So Star Wars was hardly “destroyed”. Yep. Even as clickbait articles go, that one puts on a poor show: it's all of 284 words excluding the header. Some of my paragraphs are longer than that. Hell, some my sentences are!   Dusney??? You know -- I like that name better!!! Just teasin', Mike. That's the first I've heard about this headline doing the rounds right now. Even I can't keep up with all the flim-flam around these movies anymore. You're right: TPM was one of the top grossing films of all time when it came out, and AOTC and ROTS managed to net more than $1.5 billion between them, so Star Wars was hardly "destroyed". Combined, the prequels made $2.44 billion on original release (adding up their worldwide box office totals: TPM, AOTC, ROTS). TPM also holds the following records: (19) Top Lifetime Adjusted Grosses - Adjusted to 2020(18) Top Lifetime Grosses(6) Top Lifetime Grosses by MPAA Rating - PG(6) Top Lifetime Grosses by MPAA Rating - G/PG
And that doesn't even begin to touch on home video sales, rentals, cable viewing figures, downloading/streaming, plus the revenue from re-releases; not to mention books, toys, video games, etc. -- or how the Star Wars brand was grown out, leading to "The Clone Wars" (a very popular spinoff), and ultimately: the lucrative sale to Disney. Not bad for a film (and trilogy) that half the Internet decided to hate and ridicule for twenty years. If I were Lucas, I'd probably be happy with that. People just haven't been able to stop talking about these films ever since they came out. A lot of other films released in that timeframe, some very acclaimed, are now either forgotten or simply aren't generating the same buzz (or clickbait) two decades on. And yes: Lucas has said that stuff before. He actually said it way back in 2005 to Static Multimedia: Here is Lucas again speaking about the same thing in 2005 to Rolling Stone: It's really dishonest -- or, at the very least: misleading -- when people act like this revelation is anything new; jumping on it as if Lucas himself were having some grand epiphany, or that a bunch of hapless Fox executives are smarter (or richer) than he is. Oh, well. At least there's this fantastic quote from Liam Neeson in that dumpy article: Immense love and respect for that man! |
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Post by jppiper on Nov 27, 2020 14:03:54 GMT
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Post by jppiper on Nov 30, 2020 16:28:41 GMT
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Post by jppiper on Dec 15, 2020 2:38:40 GMT
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Post by thephantomcalamari on Dec 15, 2020 19:33:17 GMT
It's kind of insane that we've apparently just decided clickbait entertainment listicles don't require even a modicum of fact-checking. Interestingly, according to Sam Witwer (I think it was during a live commentary for ESB on YouTube), he knows who was responsible for this change, and he says it wasn't Lucas. He wouldn't say who it was but I'm guessing it must have been Burtt. Not really much else to say. Clickbait trash that offers no interesting analysis or insight. |
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Post by jppiper on Dec 15, 2020 20:19:21 GMT
thephantomcalamarido you think there's a continuity error with Qui-Gon being Obi-Wan's Teacher instead of Yoda?
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Post by thephantomcalamari on Dec 15, 2020 20:49:25 GMT
thephantomcalamari do you think there's a continuity error with Qui-Gon being Obi-Wan's Teacher instead of Yoda? No, because they explain it. In fact, the first few lines of Episode I mention the instruction Obi-Wan has received from Yoda. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Dec 15, 2020 21:54:14 GMT
thephantomcalamari do you think there's a continuity error with Qui-Gon being Obi-Wan's Teacher instead of Yoda? No, because they explain it. In fact, the first few lines of Episode I mention the instruction Obi-Wan has received from Yoda. And Obi-Wan continues to remain close to Yoda in all three PT movies. It's like Yoda always saw a lot of promise in Obi-Wan and decided to give him extra nudges (or rebukes: "Qui-Gon's defiance I sense in you. Need that, you do not!"). |
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Post by thephantomcalamari on Dec 15, 2020 22:14:48 GMT
No, because they explain it. In fact, the first few lines of Episode I mention the instruction Obi-Wan has received from Yoda. And Obi-Wan continues to remain close to Yoda in all three PT movies. It's like Yoda always saw a lot of promise in Obi-Wan and decided to give him extra nudges (or rebukes: "Qui-Gon's defiance I sense in you. Need that, you do not!"). Indeed, but I personally like to think--however implausible it may seem practically--that Yoda maintains an equal interest and regard for all his Padawans as they grow and age. We just don't see those relationships! |
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Post by Cryogenic on Dec 15, 2020 22:50:01 GMT
And Obi-Wan continues to remain close to Yoda in all three PT movies. It's like Yoda always saw a lot of promise in Obi-Wan and decided to give him extra nudges (or rebukes: "Qui-Gon's defiance I sense in you. Need that, you do not!"). Indeed, but I personally like to think--however implausible it may seem practically--that Yoda maintains an equal interest and regard for all his Padawans as they grow and age. We just don't see those relationships! Yeah -- that works. In practice, however, Yoda probably has "favourites", even though it seems a bit shitty. One interesting consequence is that Anakin gets "additional" instruction from Palpatine, while Obi-Wan receives further bits of mentoring from Yoda. It's pretty apt that it's these four characters waging war with lightsabers at the climax of the PT. As Lucas once said, the storyline of the PT ultimately shaves down to these four individuals. It is their psychic conflict writ large. YodaObiAniPalpy (Wars). "I have good news for you, my lord. The war has begun." |
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