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Post by Gen on Feb 11, 2022 13:56:05 GMT
Does anyone know the extent of Lucas’ involvement with season 7? I’m about to finish 6 any day now. I know that he essentially ran the show up until 7, but the scripts/stories were still holdovers from his era? Any known changes? When were the animatics completed? Thanks.
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Post by Somny on Feb 11, 2022 14:08:10 GMT
Does anyone know the extent of Lucas’ involvement with season 7? I’m about to finish 6 any day now. I know that he essentially ran the show up until 7, but the scripts/stories were still holdovers from his era? Any known changes? When were the animatics completed? Thanks. It seems GL was regularly involved with the series, at least in terms of writing, up to Season 6 ("The Lost Missions") because J.W. Rinzler once talked about working with him and some of the writers on a script Rinzler wrote for that season. As for GL's involvement or influence on the final season's scripts/stories, I can't be certain. I didn't follow Filoni and co.'s interviews about Season 7 too closely but what little I did read didn't mention GL's participation at all. However, I'm sure the broad strokes of those final arcs were passed by him in one confab or another at the very least.
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Post by darkspine10 on Feb 11, 2022 15:11:54 GMT
Does anyone know the extent of Lucas’ involvement with season 7? I’m about to finish 6 any day now. I know that he essentially ran the show up until 7, but the scripts/stories were still holdovers from his era? Any known changes? When were the animatics completed? Thanks. Animatics for 'The Bad Batch' and 'Ahsoka in the Underworld' arcs were produced at some point in 2012 most likely (possibly 2013 but it'd be a slim window of time since the show ceased production in March of that year). Compared to the stories as they were at that time, there are a few differences. The Bad Batch had a few minor tweaks in dialogue ordering in most scenes, changing emphasis slightly. A few scenes were deleted for pacing reasons, though that seems to be a pretty normal part of the process. Three scenes were explicitly added in the 2020 cut, those being the initial one with Rex and Cody commiserating about their lost colleagues, Anakin's meeting with Padme (replacing the cut 'nose art' scene), and an alternate ending with a more sombre tone. As for the Ahsoka arc, this one was modified by replacing the character of Nyx Okami with the Martez sisters. Ahsoka's outfit was changed to overalls. The basic plot of these episodes remained almost exactly the same though, as evidenced by the original concept art. Bo-Katan and the Mandalorians' appearance was a new embellishment, as was the Maul scene, so presumably they would have run into each other in a different arc (Sith Shrine most likely). The Siege of Mandalore was only at a script drafting stage back in 2013, with concept storyboards. The Ahsoka novel's prologue also seems to be based on these same early drafts, though that's not completely for sure. These indicate some changes into the final draft. Ahsoka's sabers remain green (as does her outfit, matching her Season 3 Jedi outfit, probably just as a temp before the design was finalised). Maul is seen conferring with Almec during the invasion, whereas in the 2020 cut he's left offscreen until the first episode's climax. If the Ahsoka novel details are accurate, then Maul was captured in a trap involving ray shields rather than the duel high up in the roof of Sundari. The arc also originally ended on Mandalore itself instead of the Venator, with Ahsoka and Rex escaping on wolf-back (that was probably changed due the Loth Wolves' use in Rebels). Everything from the original production seems to have been overseen by Lucas, so for the first two arcs the changes aren't too major. Siege seems to have had some restructuring, likely due to going through further drafts in the interim, as it was in an early phase of development. The extent of how things changed is also difficult to ascertain, as not much was revealed about Siege and there's less concept art. Incidentally, Dark Disciple and Son of Dathomir also seemed to have very few changes from their planned 2013 iterations, with Son of Dathomir essentially being a storyboard guide to the story.
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Post by Alexrd on Feb 11, 2022 16:27:46 GMT
Does anyone know the extent of Lucas’ involvement with season 7? I’m about to finish 6 any day now. I know that he essentially ran the show up until 7, but the scripts/stories were still holdovers from his era? Any known changes? When were the animatics completed? Thanks. He wasn't involved in Season 7 as it exists. That said, the Bad Batch is basically the only arc that came directly from Lucas, but unfortunately it was censored in its finished form (see Decimator) and had some changes added as well. The animatics were completed back in 2013, when the episodes were about to be animated. The remaining arcs were based on stories discussed with Lucas but were either heavily rewritten (Ahsoka in the Underworld) or not yet finished (series finale). Outside of Season 7, there's also the Utapau arc that only exists in animatic form and two other arcs that were adapted into comics/novel: Son of Dathomir and Dark Disciple.
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Post by Gen on Feb 11, 2022 17:14:27 GMT
Thanks fellas. I found this too:
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Post by jppiper on May 20, 2023 4:41:08 GMT
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on May 20, 2023 8:26:27 GMT
I've said it before, and I very much agree with this. I'm not a fan of Matt Lanter. Lucas once said about casting Hayden in the role that he didn't want to cast a funny guy and try to make him act dark. He also nailed the casting with the 2D Clone Wars Anakin, Mat Lucas. He sounded like Hayden and had the right kind of youthful, slightly grating sound to his voice. With Lanter, he cast the funny guy, and I never fully bought his darker moments. He's too casual and out going most of the time. I think he lacks the gravitas that Anakin is supposed to embody.
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Post by Gen on May 20, 2023 15:17:56 GMT
I dunno. I think he starts out that way, but it really is Anakin "on his good days" as Lucas put it (as he is in the opening to ROTS) + the abbreviated format of TV and cartoon voice acting at work. All the characters act that way. Wartime compels a certain gusto out of them. And as the series goes on you definitely get Anakin's darkness/inner turmoil and Lanter is able to deliver more serious, introspective work when needed.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on May 20, 2023 17:06:38 GMT
I never liked TCW Anakin. Especially the voice. Seemed like Lucas was bending to the fans a bit, considering some of the criticism. "They didn't like the character." So he wanted to try to make him more "relatable". The Anakin from the movies might have been TOO dark and moody for a kids action hero type show. Also, the Anakin voice from the 2003 Clone Wars sounds nothing like Hayden.
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on May 20, 2023 17:31:34 GMT
I saw the TCW movie in theaters, and watched some of the earliest episodes of the show when it came out, but I didn't get into it at the time. I remember buying the third season on Blu-ray because it had a suitably angry looking Anakin on the cover, and I did quite enjoy the Mortis arc, but I just didn't really feel that Anakin. It wasn't until much later that I watched the whole show, and honestly, it was a slog in parts. My biggest issue with it was always Anakin's whole portrayal, from the voice down to the dialogue and the characterization. Mat Lucas may not be exactly Hayden, but his voice will always be much closer than Matt Lanter's.
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