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Post by jppiper on Jan 28, 2020 19:51:24 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Jan 28, 2020 20:10:26 GMT
It's not very well-written but the Screen Rant article is pretty carefully worded not to disparage the prequels.
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Post by Subtext Mining on Feb 8, 2020 10:37:43 GMT
How was Yoda able to interact with the spectre of Darth Bane?
(Voiced by Mark Hamill!)
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Post by Alexrd on Feb 8, 2020 10:46:54 GMT
The spectre of Bane was an illusion by the priestesses. The Sith can't live on after death.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Feb 8, 2020 13:59:47 GMT
The spectre of Bane was an illusion by the priestesses. The Sith can't live on after death. The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural...
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Post by Alexrd on Feb 8, 2020 14:51:36 GMT
The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural... Indeed. Their greed and inability to accept death leads them to unnatural paths to defy it. "At death, in order for you to preserve your identity, you must know yourself, your true self, and then let go." - Priestess "Captivated by the physical realm the Sith are." - Yoda "It is a state acquired through compassion, not greed." - Qui-Gon Jinn
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Post by jediknightfett on Feb 18, 2020 0:16:00 GMT
I’ll be honest I do not care about Ahsoka one bit. My favorite thing about the show has always been Anakin and Obi Wan and the Clones. So I’m glad that there will be a clone centric arc in the final season.
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Post by rayo1 on Feb 24, 2020 4:47:07 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Feb 24, 2020 5:31:29 GMT
My favorite thing about the show was Hondo Onaka.
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Post by Alexrd on Feb 24, 2020 11:57:21 GMT
He's talking in general terms, not about TCW or this season in particular. Besides, it has been confirmed that Lucas wasn't involved in the production of this season, and that the only arc that hasn't suffered drastic changes and is more faithful to what had been decided back then is this Bad Batch arc. The other two have been changed. My favorite thing about the show was Hondo Onaka. I definitely agree with that. By far the best original character from the series. Great performance by Jim Cummings.
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Post by rayo1 on Apr 18, 2020 0:41:11 GMT
Has anyone seen that latest episode?
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL
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Post by Somny on Apr 18, 2020 5:27:26 GMT
Filoni and company have ascended to an empyrean plane of animation on this last season. Their work so far has been nothing short of stunning. From action staging to narrative inventiveness to character animation to lighting design, it's all a wonder to behold. The whole cast and crew are clearly bringing their best game to the conclusion of this series.
And I absolutely loved the opening touch of the original Lucasfilm logo! Very appropriate given TCW having been Lucas' final, substantial involvement with his grand ol' GFFA.
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Post by rayo1 on Apr 18, 2020 6:21:46 GMT
Filoni and company have ascended to an empyrean plane of animation on this last season. Their work so far has been nothing short of stunning. From action staging to narrative inventiveness to character animation to lighting design, it's all a wonder to behold. The whole cast and crew are clearly bringing their best game to the conclusion of this series. And I absolutely loved the opening touch of the original Lucasfilm logo! Very appropriate given TCW having been Lucas' final, substantial involvement with his grand ol' GFFA. Better yet, it feels like the end of an era. Not that fake stuff from TROS (no offense, Cryogenic), but something truly special. The fact that it's all coming full circle and being the true ending to the Skywalker Saga warms my heart.
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Post by Alexrd on Apr 19, 2020 19:09:42 GMT
Has anyone seen that latest episode? IT WAS BEAUTIFUL In terms of animation? Yes. Character interaction? Not so much. Ahsoka in particular was needlessly confrontational, judgemental and arrogant. Turning logical decisions into made up problems.
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Post by Somny on Apr 19, 2020 22:29:36 GMT
My take on Ahsoka's temperament, which I saw in the same light sans the needlessness, was that she still doesn't trust the Jedi and has grown errant in her own way; perhaps partly corrupted by the brutal world beyond the cloistered life of a Jedi.
I rather liked those choices.
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Post by Alexrd on Apr 20, 2020 9:56:27 GMT
My take on Ahsoka's temperament, which I saw in the same light sans the needlessness, was that she still doesn't trust the Jedi and has grown errant in her own way; perhaps partly corrupted by the brutal world beyond the cloistered life of a Jedi. That would be acceptable, unfortunately she's portrayed as being right and having the moral high ground. She came to them for help and was needlessly confrontational, making up a false dilemma out of nowhere. I felt Obi-Wan was the only sane person there. I mean, Coruscant is under attack and asking for help and she expects them to go somewhere else (an independent system) to capture a bad guy?! I mean... It's all forced, there's a complete tonal dissonance. It's like Filoni and the writers wanted to hammer down the "Jedi are bad/wrong" agenda for the umpteenth time at any cost. The previous arc was about blaming the Jedi for ignoring the people of Coruscant (when they have no choice in the matter) and now it's blaming the Jedi for going to aid the people of Coruscant... Ridiculous.
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Post by rayo1 on Apr 21, 2020 0:06:28 GMT
Has anyone seen that latest episode? IT WAS BEAUTIFUL In terms of animation? Yes. Character interaction? Not so much. Ahsoka in particular was needlessly confrontational, judgemental and arrogant. Turning logical decisions into made up problems. You only refer to one scene, where Ahsoka is talking to Obi-Wan. (My interpretation is that this is what gets the gears turning in Obi-Wan's head about the Chancellor's predominance over Jedi ideals. Remember that he was the one who rebelled and risked breaking hundred-year-old treaties with the Mandalorian to save Satine from Maul before he himself objected to the Siege of Mandalore. He himself says that he mustn't let emotions cloud his judgement, but Ahsoka wakes him up to the fact that Obi-Wan himself is kinda being a hypocrite, since he promised Bo-Katan that there would be a Republic Siege anyhow. But even then, Obi-Wan is right as well. Just because Cybertron is ruled by Megatron doesn't mean Optimus Prime abandons it. Either way, they're both right IMO) <-- PLEASE DON'T COMMENT ON THIS THIS IS MY PERSONAL INTERPRETATION DONT RUIN THIS FOR ME I'M BEGGING YOU But anyway. You're telling me that all of the character interaction sucks? Like this? Or this? This too?! (Anakin really likes crossing his arms and beaming) EVEN THIS?! Yeah, you can't let ONE CONTROVERSIALLY WRITTEN SCENE mess with the entire perception of the episode. Unless of course you think the above scenes lack emotion or good writing, in which case there's no convincing you.
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Post by rayo1 on Apr 21, 2020 0:45:51 GMT
Having rewatched the scene again, I realized that Obi-Wan asked Rex to scramble all the forces. That obviously meant that they weren't going for Mandalore. Ahsoka's logic is still crap, but I'd be a little annoyed that an entire Siege squadron was built only to be used for something completely else. I will only concede that Ahsoka being a hypocrite by saying people are losing faith in the Jedi when saving Coruscant would help the people regain their faith, but even then, the people of Coruscant hated the Jedi anyhow despite capturing Ziro the Hutt (probably because, I dunno, people died and no one gave a crap), so it's not like saving Coruscant would do much good for their public image.
Anakin made the right call splitting up the 501st. And at least Ahsoka and Obi-Wan parted on good terms...and on a more rational solution.
Okay, now I'm predicting a response...no. Anakin's plan still works. Because 1. The 501st are beasts. They don't need Rex to be cool. 2. Multiple other Jedi were already on other worlds, so what said Ahsoka couldn't supervise her own division to combat Maul on Mandalore?
But I can imagine the group that went with Anakin and Obi-Wan were like "damnit we colored our helmets orange and now we have to make 'em shiny & blue again?"
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Post by Alexrd on Apr 21, 2020 13:40:08 GMT
You only refer to one scene, where Ahsoka is talking to Obi-Wan. (My interpretation is that this is what gets the gears turning in Obi-Wan's head about the Chancellor's predominance over Jedi ideals. Remember that he was the one who rebelled and risked breaking hundred-year-old treaties with the Mandalorian to save Satine from Maul before he himself objected to the Siege of Mandalore. One scene which happens to be quite big, relevant and important. And it goes on... And on... And ends with this: As she admitted, she's not being fair nor trying to be. So what's her point exactly? To be unfair? And we're supposed to pretend she's right has the moral high ground? Obi-Wan doesn't need to be told of the Chancellor's hold over the Jedi and the senate (that's not even what the conversation is about). No Jedi is happy with the war, the current situation they are in and were shoved into. And Obi-Wan didn't break any old treaty. He went to Mandalore but not in any official capacity, precisely because Mandalore is neutral and not part of the Republic. He himself says that he mustn't let emotions cloud his judgement, but Ahsoka wakes him up to the fact that Obi-Wan himself is kinda being a hypocrite, since he promised Bo-Katan that there would be a Republic Siege anyhow. No, he didn't. For starters, they went to the Jedi for help, not to complain about a promise that was never made. So much so that Bo-Katan didn't mention any promise. All she asked back then was for Obi-Wan to tell the Senate what happened on Mandalore. And Obi-Wan said that it would likely lead to a Republic invasion of the system. Not only is "likely" not the same as "certainly", but any decision made would have to come from the senate, not from the Jedi or Obi-Wan in particular. PLEASE DON'T COMMENT ON THIS THIS IS MY PERSONAL INTERPRETATION DONT RUIN THIS FOR ME I'M BEGGING YOU Why would discussion ruin anything? I've commented on the wrong premises of your interpretation. But you can take it or leave it. But anyway. You're telling me that all of the character interaction sucks? I didn't say all. What I said was: Yeah, you can't let ONE CONTROVERSIALLY WRITTEN SCENE mess with the entire perception of the episode. But it did mess with it. It completely ruined the mood of it all. And it was completely uncalled for.
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Post by Somny on Apr 25, 2020 5:11:23 GMT
This week's episode was INCREDIBLE! The writing and direction oozed with dread in a sewer and ferocity on a cat-walk. They're clearly pulling out all the stops for this momentous arc (momentous in terms of the narrative and with regard to the closing out of this fine series). The choices here already feel uncharacteristically operatic and epic for the series as though Filoni and company were waiting calmly and patiently to blow our minds -- and we're only half-way in!
This is gonna be one for the books, my dear friends.
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