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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on May 28, 2022 22:21:31 GMT
20th anniversary panel at Celebration 2022.
The maker himself gives a video message. Tut, tut, Natalie, for not making it, but hey, they got Hayden and Ewan and that sure ain't bad. Ashley Ekstein, the voice of Ahsoka, presents.
Brace yourself for Temuera Morrison and Daniel Logan, what characters those lads are!
There's one particular (not unimportant) part of the film that's a tad conspicuous by it absence in the conversation, I'll be curious to hear Cryogenic 's thoughts... |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 4, 2022 22:10:56 GMT
I think this will go here. Rose played one of the handmaidens.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 5, 2022 17:57:53 GMT
The Wampa's Lair podcast revisited AOTC for its 20th anniversary, with a lengthy episode dedicated to each act. I couldn't recommend it more, the two presenters genuinely love the film, with one calling it his favourite of the prequels. I'm posting links from its website page, but you can also find it in the usual places like Apple podcasts, Spotify etc.
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Post by tonyg on Jun 9, 2022 0:29:30 GMT
The contrasts of AOTC always amaze me. One of them is that the characters are made/ or have to act in the opposite way they declare to act/usually are.
As Subtext mentioned in another thread this happens to Obi Wan in several occasions. First he opposes to Anakin to go "out of the mandate" and make rushed, *on the field * decisions yet when Obi Wan sees the the assassination droid he jumps out of the window without even thinking about the consequences. He uses himself as bait for Zam yet just hours ago he disagreed with Anakin to use the same approach with Padme.
He lectures Anakin how the weapon is his life yet he practically looses his own lightsaber during the crucial duel with Jango Fett. Obi Wan is constantly forced to go "out of the mandate" ( if we use his own words) while he is lecturing his Padawan that hey should stay in. As for example in the case of the Kamino dart: Obi Wan is trying hard to find information through the official channels yet he found what was necessary in some old dinner from a old space aventurer. It is the way of learning wisdom and we see Obi Wan to learn how to be more flexible and search answers outside the standard rules, in a way he is learning to be more like his Padawan.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 10, 2022 15:54:45 GMT
Pretty cool Jedi poses in this promotional image, you gotta admit.
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 12, 2022 14:44:06 GMT
 Happy 20th to this beautiful masterpiece of a film. I feel so blessed to have been able to go to the panel and see Hayden and Ewan at Celebration this year - everyone including me was all decked out in head to toe Attack of the Clones gear. As an aside, so glad to see this forum is still around. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 12, 2022 23:18:40 GMT
Happy 20th to this beautiful masterpiece of a film. I feel so blessed to have been able to go to the panel and see Hayden and Ewan at Celebration this year - everyone including me was all decked out in head to toe Attack of the Clones gear. As an aside, so glad to see this forum is still around.
Wow, so the forum was represented at this year's Celebration.  And no less than the anniversary panel for a film particularly close to our hearts, and still highly underappreciated by the fanbase.
I'm thrilled to hear you were able to be there in person, I've never been to one. I'd love to hear all your thoughts about the experience, it must have been cool meeting so many prequelists in real life? Ewan and Hayden's appearance were surprises, were they not? That ought to have been very memorable.
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 2:43:37 GMT
Happy 20th to this beautiful masterpiece of a film. I feel so blessed to have been able to go to the panel and see Hayden and Ewan at Celebration this year - everyone including me was all decked out in head to toe Attack of the Clones gear. As an aside, so glad to see this forum is still around.
Wow, so the forum was represented at this year's Celebration. And no less than the anniversary panel for a film particularly close to our hearts, and still highly underappreciated by the fanbase.
I'm thrilled to hear you were able to be there in person, I've never been to one. I'd love to hear all your thoughts about the experience, it must have been cool meeting so many prequelists in real life? Ewan and Hayden's appearance were surprises, were they not? That ought to have been very memorable.
It was a surreal, once in a lifetime experience. Guys, I REALLY love this film. It's in my all-time Top 5 Favorite Movies, and is the movie I've rewatched the most since it was my favorite as a kid. Seeing so many people going absolutely bananas for Attack of the Clones made me feel so good after always defending the film for 20 years. Regardless of how it happened, I am glad it is finally getting the appreciation it deserves. Ashley Eckstein described it as "groundbreaking," and she was absolutely correct. Honestly, the whole experience was unforgettable! I sat there, dressed pretty much head to toe in AOTC 20th gear, waving around a Count Dooku lightsaber. People were decked out in Jedi costumes and even the girl in front of me was sporting a screen accurate Padme on Geonosis costume. The panel was exciting enough (George himself had recorded a video addressed to the fans!), but then with about 20 minutes to go Ashely went "If ONLY Hayden and Ewan were here...maybe they are?!" And the whole place just went ballistic as they walked on stage. What a moment! And the following day I actually MET Ewan and Tem Morrison. I am not sure if the AOTC panel was my favorite moment of Celebration (I think getting within feet of Dave Filoni and thanking him for his work on The Clone Wars was probably my favorite moment), but it definitely made a strong case and was undoubtedly Top 5 for making me feel like a kid again. The panel was my most anticipated content going into the convention (I think I must have played the "Arrival of the Clones" soundtrack about 100 times in line) and it did not disappoint! |
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 12:50:10 GMT
Wow, so the forum was represented at this year's Celebration. And no less than the anniversary panel for a film particularly close to our hearts, and still highly underappreciated by the fanbase. I'm thrilled to hear you were able to be there in person, I've never been to one. I'd love to hear all your thoughts about the experience, it must have been cool meeting so many prequelists in real life? Ewan and Hayden's appearance were surprises, were they not? That ought to have been very memorable.
It was a surreal, once in a lifetime experience. Guys, I REALLY love this film. It's in my all-time Top 5 Favorite Movies, and is the movie I've rewatched the most since it was my favorite as a kid. Seeing so many people going absolutely bananas for Attack of the Clones made me feel so good after always defending the film for 20 years. Regardless of how it happened, I am glad it is finally getting the appreciation it deserves. Ashley Eckstein described it as "groundbreaking," and she was absolutely correct. OMG! What an experience. I'm glad a hardcore prequel-loving kid such as yourself was in attendance. A bit jealous, of course, but you're more Generation Prequel, by age, than a few of us here, myself included. I'm sorry. That computer module has experienced a problem.
Cryogenic needs to reboot his hard drive.I can only imagine the excitement of being there. What an awesome validation of your fandom, DS! There's nothing like meeting or being in the same room as your personally revered Star Wars actors. I had that same tingle when I saw Ian McDiarmid in a play in 2008 in the UK. And thanks for sharing that image. You perhaps need to fill out a journal; you must treasure every particle of memory. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 13, 2022 19:29:14 GMT
It was a surreal, once in a lifetime experience. Guys, I REALLY love this film. It's in my all-time Top 5 Favorite Movies, and is the movie I've rewatched the most since it was my favorite as a kid. Seeing so many people going absolutely bananas for Attack of the Clones made me feel so good after always defending the film for 20 years. Regardless of how it happened, I am glad it is finally getting the appreciation it deserves. Ashley Eckstein described it as "groundbreaking," and she was absolutely correct. It's the Star Wars film that's most grown on me over the years. My immediate reaction to I, III, IV, V and VI were all highly positive, I didn't quite know how to respond to II. I was very young at the time, and neither did I understand politics or romance. A few years later, however, as III approached and I entered puberty, I was pretty enamoured with Natalie, and it became difficult to look at the film in the same aloof way. When I began to get interested in political history, the film, and indeed TPM too, went up many more notches. I could never understand the bashers' fixation with Lucas showing us the inner working of a Galactic civilisation, the Machiavellian politics felt fundamental to the tragic story being told.
Do you think we'll ever get Natalie Portman to attend a Celebration? Was there much talk of her absence among fans present?
Honestly, the whole experience was unforgettable! I sat there, dressed pretty much head to toe in AOTC 20th gear, waving around a Count Dooku lightsaber. People were decked out in Jedi costumes and even the girl in front of me was sporting a screen accurate Padme on Geonosis costume. The panel was exciting enough (George himself had recorded a video addressed to the fans!), but then with about 20 minutes to go Ashely went "If ONLY Hayden and Ewan were here...maybe they are?!" And the whole place just went ballistic as they walked on stage. What a moment!
I know this may sound like heresy for some of the OT generation to hear, but I've never found Leia particularly hot, not even the slave girl outfit. I guess being part of the PT generation, as a 90s kid, there was something in the air in the 2000s with Padmé, there was something more relevant, something more tangible, something more meaningful. It wasn't that Leia was old-fashioned or anything like that, it just wasn't for me. I guess I'm not much of a sarcastic person in real life, and I tend not to date overly sassy women, so that may be part of it. Of course, humour is still an important human trait, you need to be able to laugh to live, but it's not the same deal-breaker for all of us. I tend to place more value in one's cerebral qualities, and here of course Padmé impresses. I get the sense her intellectual capacity also intrigued Anakin, in not so much ticking boxes or lining up with his own interests, but in its highly articulate and pleasantly eloquent form (no slactivism Twitter vibes, it's the real deal).
Whilst Mark Hammill and Carrie Fisher are and were very American in their extroverted personalities, (Luke Skywalker is too folks, believe it or not) George Lucas is not, and is unusual in being reserved like we tend be more so in Europe (especially Eastern Europe ) and one can definitely detect that in the characters he wrote for the PT. Notice that, other than the comic relief (Jar-Jar, C-3PO etc), nobody really speaks without the words having some currency; there is banter, yet it's never recurrent like in the Originals, or in your face, try-hard like in the Sequels. I think the modern American audience felt alienated by this dynamic, they wanted more of the colloquial OT dialogue again, and it might explain the films better reception across the Atlantic.
A really nice touch to see Lucas give a video message. I'd have preferred him to speak more on the storyline or its themes, but I guess with Disney blowing their trumpet so much with StageCraft at the moment, it's important that Lucas respond with a technology jab of his own. That's our George, as subtle as ever  And the following day I actually MET Ewan and Tem Morrison. I am not sure if the AOTC panel was my favorite moment of Celebration (I think getting within feet of Dave Filoni and thanking him for his work on The Clone Wars was probably my favorite moment), but it definitely made a strong case and was undoubtedly Top 5 for making me feel like a kid again. The panel was my most anticipated content going into the convention (I think I must have played the "Arrival of the Clones" soundtrack about 100 times in line) and it did not disappoint! Awesome! I'd never realised what a mighty conversationalist Morrisson was until I watched this panel, I was nearly in hysterics at one point, he's hilarious. I'm sure I'd seen him in the AOTC behind the scenes features, so maybe I'd forgotten, I don't know. I'm more intrigued to check out Book of Bubba series after listening to him.
There's one particular (not unimportant) part of the film that's a tad conspicuous by it absence in the conversation, I'll be curious to hear Cryogenic 's thoughts... And thanks for sharing that image. You perhaps need to fill out a journal; you must treasure every particle of memory.
A million times, yes. Do it as soon as you can Darkslayer, you'll thank yourself in the future. I'd encourage you to set up a thread on your Celebration experience actually. Anyone else who attends a Celebration can chip in with their own thoughts.
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 19:38:05 GMT
It was a surreal, once in a lifetime experience. Guys, I REALLY love this film. It's in my all-time Top 5 Favorite Movies, and is the movie I've rewatched the most since it was my favorite as a kid. Seeing so many people going absolutely bananas for Attack of the Clones made me feel so good after always defending the film for 20 years. Regardless of how it happened, I am glad it is finally getting the appreciation it deserves. Ashley Eckstein described it as "groundbreaking," and she was absolutely correct. It's the Star Wars film that's most grown on me over the years. My immediate reaction to I, III, IV, V and VI were all highly positive, I didn't quite know how to respond to II. I was very young at the time, and neither did I understand politics or romance. A few years later, however, as III approached and I entered puberty, I was pretty enamoured with Natalie, and it became difficult to look at the film in the same aloof way. When I began to get interested in political history, the film, and indeed TPM too, went up many more notches. I could never understand the bashers' fixation with Lucas showing us the inner working of a Galactic civilisation, the Machiavellian politics felt fundamental to the tragic story being told.
Do you think we'll ever get Natalie Portman to attend a Celebration? Was there much talk of her absence among fans present?
Honestly, the whole experience was unforgettable! I sat there, dressed pretty much head to toe in AOTC 20th gear, waving around a Count Dooku lightsaber. People were decked out in Jedi costumes and even the girl in front of me was sporting a screen accurate Padme on Geonosis costume. The panel was exciting enough (George himself had recorded a video addressed to the fans!), but then with about 20 minutes to go Ashely went "If ONLY Hayden and Ewan were here...maybe they are?!" And the whole place just went ballistic as they walked on stage. What a moment!
I know this may sound like heresy for some of the OT generation to hear, but I've never found Leia particularly hot, not even the slave girl outfit. I guess being part of the PT generation, as a 90s kid, there was something in the air in the 2000s with Padmé, there was something more relevant, something more tangible, something more meaningful. It wasn't that Leia was old-fashioned or anything like that, it just wasn't for me. I guess I'm not much of a sarcastic person in real life, and I tend not to date overly sassy women, so that may be part of it. Of course, humour is still an important human trait, you need to be able to laugh to live, but it's not the same deal-breaker for all of us. I tend to place more value in one's cerebral qualities, and here of course Padmé impresses. I get the sense her intellectual capacity also intrigued Anakin, in not so much ticking boxes or lining up with his own interests, but in its highly articulate and pleasantly eloquent form (no slactivism Twitter vibes, it's the real deal).
Whilst Mark Hammill and Carrie Fisher are and were very American in their extroverted personalities, (Luke Skywalker is too folks, believe it or not) George Lucas is not, and is unusual in being reserved like we tend be more so in Europe (especially Eastern Europe ) and one can definitely detect that in the characters he wrote for the PT. Notice that, other than the comic relief (Jar-Jar, C-3PO etc), nobody really speaks without the words having some currency; there is banter, yet it's never recurrent like in the Originals, or in your face, try-hard like in the Sequels. I think the modern American audience felt alienated by this dynamic, they wanted more of the colloquial OT dialogue again, and it might better explain the films better reception across the Atlantic.
A really nice touch to see Lucas give a video message. I'd have preferred him to speak more on the storyline or its themes, but I guess with Disney blowing their trumpet so much with StageCraft at the moment, it's important that Lucas respond with a technology jab of his own. That's our George, as subtle as ever And the following day I actually MET Ewan and Tem Morrison. I am not sure if the AOTC panel was my favorite moment of Celebration (I think getting within feet of Dave Filoni and thanking him for his work on The Clone Wars was probably my favorite moment), but it definitely made a strong case and was undoubtedly Top 5 for making me feel like a kid again. The panel was my most anticipated content going into the convention (I think I must have played the "Arrival of the Clones" soundtrack about 100 times in line) and it did not disappoint! Awesome! I'd never realised what a mighty conversationalist Morrisson was until I watched this panel, I was nearly in hysterics at one point, he's hilarious. I'm sure I'd seen him in the AOTC behind the scenes features, so maybe I'd forgotten, I don't know. I'm more intrigued to check out Book of Bubba series after listening to him.
There's one particular (not unimportant) part of the film that's a tad conspicuous by it absence in the conversation, I'll be curious to hear Cryogenic 's thoughts... And thanks for sharing that image. You perhaps need to fill out a journal; you must treasure every particle of memory.
A million times, yes. Do it as soon as you can Darkslayer, you'll thank yourself in the future. I'd encourage you to set up a thread on your Celebration experience actually. Anyone else who attends a Celebration can chip in with their own thoughts.
1) I don't know about Natalie. I think, given the hilariously enthusiastic welcome Hayden and Ewan got this year***, she might be more inclined now. Her schedule wouldn't have permitted her to go this year in any case, since she has to do press for Thor 4 since that comes out in a couple weeks. Maybe she'll come in 2025 for the 20th year of ROTS. I think the only issue would be the stalking and harassments problems she's unfortunately faced when she's been to other conventions before. 2) Not sure what the part of the film that wasn't mentioned that you are getting at is. *** (Ewan in particular said he had so much fun meeting everyone that he said he'd come back next year, which was actually a leak of the con even happening next year lol) |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 13, 2022 20:49:06 GMT
1) I don't know about Natalie. I think, given the hilariously enthusiastic welcome Hayden and Ewan got this year***, she might be more inclined now. Her schedule wouldn't have permitted her to go this year in any case, since she has to do press for Thor 4 since that comes out in a couple weeks. Maybe she'll come in 2025 for the 20th year of ROTS. I think the only issue would be the stalking and harassments problems she's unfortunately faced when she's been to other conventions before. 2) Not sure what the part of the film that wasn't mentioned that you are getting at is. *** (Ewan in particular said he had so much fun meeting everyone that he said he'd come back next year, which was actually a leak of the con even happening next year lol)
To my knowledge, this is the first time Ewan has ever attended the official Star Wars convention? I don't believe Natalie has attended one, unless you're referring to something from 2002 maybe?
Ewan has spoken in the past about having bad experiences with fans pestering him for autographs, so I was somewhat caught by surprise that he attended this one, and especially in standing in for fan photographs. I didn't think prequelists would ever get a chance to shake his hand for his work, other than a random interaction on the street.
I can't say I blame some actors for not being big on the autographs. And stalking is a serious problem, especially for women. Notice that neither Ewan, Hayden or Natalie are on social media - there's reasons behind that. They're not your Mark Hamill or Teumera Morisson type of people who're up for talking all day and night.
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Post by Gen on Jun 13, 2022 21:11:22 GMT
I was struck by how charismatic Temeura was at the panel, seriously wotta guy. Nice that he's maintained this godfather/godson relationship with Daniel Logan all these years.
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 21:17:11 GMT
1) I don't know about Natalie. I think, given the hilariously enthusiastic welcome Hayden and Ewan got this year***, she might be more inclined now. Her schedule wouldn't have permitted her to go this year in any case, since she has to do press for Thor 4 since that comes out in a couple weeks. Maybe she'll come in 2025 for the 20th year of ROTS. I think the only issue would be the stalking and harassments problems she's unfortunately faced when she's been to other conventions before. 2) Not sure what the part of the film that wasn't mentioned that you are getting at is. *** (Ewan in particular said he had so much fun meeting everyone that he said he'd come back next year, which was actually a leak of the con even happening next year lol)
To my knowledge, this is the first time Ewan has ever attended the official Star Wars convention? I don't believe Natalie has attended one, unless you're referring to something from 2002 maybe?
Ewan has spoken in the past about having bad experiences with fans pestering him for autographs, so I was somewhat caught by surprise that he attended this one, and especially in standing in for fan photographs. I didn't think prequelists would ever get a chance to shake his hand for his work, other than a random interaction on the street.
I can't say I blame some actors for not being big on the autographs. And stalking is a serious problem, especially for women. Notice that neither Ewan, Hayden or Natalie are on social media - there's reasons behind that. They're not your Mark Hamill or Teumera Morisson type of people who're up for talking all day and night.
You're right on Ewan. However I do know Natalie has had problems with fans in the past, that was the gist of what I was trying to convey. |
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Post by deliveranze on Jun 13, 2022 23:35:00 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 14, 2022 0:30:34 GMT
This is an extremely interesting revelation. George's flexibility is fascinating and Hayden got to imprint, from the look and sound of it, quite a lot of his personality onto Anakin. But what intrigues me most is that Hayden's terminology implies that Anakin and Watto speak a particular dialect to one another: a variant of Huttese; or a mixture of Huttese and Toydarian, perhaps? I've only ever watched that scene with the notion of them communicating in Huttese. Now I have something new to "input" into that scene and the move entire. In some way, it changes the meaning of the entire Prequel Trilogy. Secret societies, people talking in private languages, hidden attachments, us-against-the-world shields and defences. Incredible, after twenty years, I'm still learning more about AOTC and the colossal alchemy of the prequels. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 14, 2022 12:53:26 GMT
2) Not sure what the part of the film that wasn't mentioned that you are getting at is.
Let me give Cryogenic one last opportunity. Has he watched the panel video yet? It's a pretty obvious answer. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jul 14, 2022 13:04:11 GMT
2) Not sure what the part of the film that wasn't mentioned that you are getting at is. Let me give Cryogenic one last opportunity. Has he watched the panel video yet? It's a pretty obvious answer. Since nobody bothered to guess, I'll tell you: I was referring to the Romantic plot. It wasn't mentioned at the panel, not even the sand line.
In any case, here's a little nugget I discovered lately, courtesy of Paul Duncan, the author of this book: - Natalie Portman, interviewed during or shortly after the making AOTC
We seem to be getting a bit sexual on the forum these past few days and I like it!
This might explain it, haha.
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Post by smittysgelato on Jul 14, 2022 19:25:23 GMT
I have always wondered if I could continue to behave like a normal human being if I ever encountered an attractive woman dressed as Padme at a con. I swear I might turn into a schoolboy on the spot and ask her to marry me.
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Post by Cryogenic on Jul 14, 2022 20:10:39 GMT
I have always wondered if I could continue to behave like a normal human being if I ever encountered an attractive woman dressed as Padme at a con. I swear I might turn into a schoolboy on the spot and ask her to marry me. What about one dressed as Slave Leia?    |
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And no less than the anniversary panel for a film particularly close to our hearts, and still highly underappreciated by the fanbase.
