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Post by Alexrd on Oct 13, 2022 15:47:13 GMT
Looks like Alessio is still Alessio...
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Post by jppiper on Oct 13, 2022 18:50:14 GMT
AlexrdHe's Probably Going I Told you so I Told you so over the Kenobi Series WHICH BROKE CANON!
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Oct 13, 2022 19:51:28 GMT
Now now now, I thought Alessio was banned from here? A post via a messenger is a grey area.
I don't have any strong opinions on the Cardano firing. I can bet she's said some silly things on social media, but who hasn't? Moreover, I enjoy the tongue in cheek editing of Jar Jar Abrams, and I'm not going to lectured on morals by Disney, of all companies, given their appeasement of the genocidal regime in China.
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 13, 2022 21:12:23 GMT
Now now now, I thought Alessio was banned from here? A post via a messenger is a grey area. I agree with you. This is quite the genuinely tolerant place and Alessio remains the only person to be served with a ban. Yet he still wants to step over the rules and preach to others. Maybe I shouldn't humour him. I don't think it's much of a problem if he cares that passionately and he is occasionally indulged (by me), and in any case, he is being filtered; rather than having free rein about what to say, who to say it to, and when. Maybe it's because I believe ardently in free speech that I'm prepared to let Alessio have his say and I'm sometimes prepared to share his thoughts here. However, if other people disagree with that and it's making them feel uncomfortable, I can desist. And I say that openly and with all sincerity -- no slight to anyone. Basically, yeah. The idea that corporations have any particular insight on morality, least of all that we should rally to their defence over presumed acts of enlightenment on their part, is really quite laughable (and a tad disgusting). Like you, I don't have strong opinions on the Carano firing (Carano, not Cardano -- let's chat crypto another time!), and it's certainly part and parcel of being human to say a few hasty and questionable things on social media. But as we know, the leftist collective only wants you speaking their truths, and they are constantly on the lookout for any expressions of heresy. Alessio is young which makes him idealistic, which is fine. However, he also lacks the experiences I've had. Were he to have seen and experienced what I have, I doubt he'd be quite so eager to express some of the opinions he holds.
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Post by jppiper on Oct 13, 2022 21:15:00 GMT
Now now now, I thought Alessio was banned from here? A post via a messenger is a grey area.
I don't have any strong opinions on the Cardano firing. I can bet she's said some silly things on social media, but who hasn't? Moreover, I enjoy the tongue in cheek editing of Jar Jar Abrams, and I'm not going to lectured on morals by Disney, of all companies, given their appeasement of the genocidal regime in China.
He send me Messages on Reddit trying to Justify the Kenobi-Vader rematch (this before the series aired) I Blocked him
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 13, 2022 21:17:29 GMT
Now now now, I thought Alessio was banned from here? A post via a messenger is a grey area.
I don't have any strong opinions on the Cardano firing. I can bet she's said some silly things on social media, but who hasn't? Moreover, I enjoy the tongue in cheek editing of Jar Jar Abrams, and I'm not going to lectured on morals by Disney, of all companies, given their appeasement of the genocidal regime in China.
He send me Messages on Reddit trying to Justify the Kenobi-Vader rematch (this before the series aired) I Blocked him Private messages? I've no idea how Reddit works (I read content on there, but I don't have an account). I like Alessio, but he needs to learn that you can't just personally accost someone out of an opinion. That's not how people or opinions work.
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Post by jppiper on Oct 13, 2022 21:32:07 GMT
He send me Messages on Reddit trying to Justify the Kenobi-Vader rematch (this before the series aired) I Blocked him Private messages? I've no idea how Reddit works (I read content on there, but I don't have an account). I like Alessio, but he needs to learn that you can't just personally accost someone out of an opinion. That's not how people or opinions work. Remember this? chat - reddi
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Post by Alexrd on Oct 14, 2022 9:45:27 GMT
Alessio takes me back to the Itchy Bacca days.
I miss Itchy.
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 14, 2022 19:20:55 GMT
Alessio takes me back to the Itchy Bacca days. I miss Itchy. What happened to him?
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Oct 14, 2022 20:08:36 GMT
Cryogenic Have you shared messages from him elsewhere since his banning? If so, I've missed them.
I'm happy to have Alessio back, but I'm a democrat first, and if the majority still rejects his return, I'm content to abide by that. Regardless, our administrator Subtext Mining will need to come up with rules governing the messenger grey area.
Pro tip, if you're still lurking, Alessio: don't "now now" people, it makes you look like a patronising buffoon from the get-go.
Pro-tip for Disney, given its cancerous moral relativism:
"Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere" - Martin Luther King
This year a notable book called Red Carpet: Hollywood, China, and the Global Battle for Cultural Supremacy by Erich Schwartzel came out, detailing the Chinese Communist Party's coercion of the US film industry. Interview with the author here:
"As China's power in Hollywood has grown, any portrayal of a Chinese villain has been removed from any script before the cameras can even start rolling. The last time was in 2012"
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Post by Alexrd on Oct 15, 2022 13:50:26 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Oct 19, 2022 18:27:30 GMT
I wouldn't mind having Alessio back here. Whatever. Just no more silly ass harassment hijinx like before. You hear me, Alessio? Have some dignity.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Nov 5, 2022 15:11:15 GMT
If you can get past the hyperbolic title (typical YouTube thing, unfortunately), there's a fair bit of meat in this.
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 5, 2022 19:00:36 GMT
Without clicking on the video, I'm assuming he is talking about the Sequel Trilogy. I'm kinda bored of YouTubers railing on that one, honestly.
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 5, 2022 21:09:38 GMT
Without clicking on the video, I'm assuming he is talking about the Sequel Trilogy. I'm kinda bored of YouTubers railing on that one, honestly. It's that guy's stock-in-trade. From the clickbait title down, StarWarsTheory is a fueller and profiteer of nerd outrage. He not only has a very one-sided, partisan take on the entire Sequel Trilogy and the machinations of Disney/Lucasfilm, but his videos are downright lazy. It's kind of funny that he basically accuses Disney/LFL of avoiding creativity for the sake of easy money, placing profit above originality, when he himself just sits in his chair and reads entire articles, written by other people, line-by-line (rather sloppily, too -- i.e., with small mistakes in recitation along the way). Tellingly, in the video just posted, he gets to the end of the article and says, "I fully agree with whoever wrote this article on most things. Who the heck wrote this? I don't even know." Then there is an obvious edit in the video and he goes straight on to quote people in the comments section of the article. He never gives any attribution to the author, even though the author's name is right there at the top of the article. All he had to do was scroll back up. He could easily have done this in real-time; or, better yet, before he actually began reading through it, platforming himself off of someone else's work. It shows you how he operates. He is happy to pilfer entire articles for views and subscribers, but he doesn't have the patience or respect to actually bother to read out the writer's name, despite even giving kudos to the article itself (i.e., this isn't even a deconstruction; it's him uncritically agreeing). That's someone operating with a lot of ego. I would also disagree with the assertion (by Arch Duke) that there is much "meat" in the video. Red meat for ST haters, sure. However, the article itself (the foundation of the entire video) only contains speculation/gossip/hearsay/innuendo; which SWT even admits is the case. Of course, it is centered primarily on Kathleen Kennedy and her leadership of Lucasfilm. But, even if I don't agree with everything she's said or done publicly (e.g., throwing Alden Ehrenreich under the bus by blaming him for not being Harrison Ford on the box office failure of "Solo" -- as SWT brings up himself), she's still the head of Lucasfilm after ten years. If she was that much of a disaster, she'd have been removed by now. I don't entirely disagree with SWT that Disney under the leadership of Bob Iger placed profit ahead of storytelling; yet I also think it's too simplistic to act like the ST films are worthless and should be written off as a commercial monstrosity. Reality is a lot more nuanced most of the time. Ultimately, we're all outsiders looking in. None of us knows exactly what is happening internally within Lucasfilm; and even if we worked there ourselves, we wouldn't have all the details. Moreover, art appreciation is subjective. I don't think it can be denied there was some degree of rushing on LFL's part to get these films released, or that compromises weren't made along the way; but that still doesn't tell you how you should feel about the end result. SWT appears to be someone who has jumped on the "I hate what they did with Luke" bandwagon; and he now plays that role to the hilt. He is tapping into a vein of discontent and enjoying his own small measure of popularity (and money) because of it. The subtleties of the artistic process are obviously foreign to his mind; and, it seems he has decided, would risk getting in the way of his mission of stoking and collecting those precious fanboy tears.
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 5, 2022 22:12:50 GMT
It is pretty depressing how political Star Wars and fandom, in general, have become. For me, politics ain't where the juice in life is at.
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 5, 2022 23:33:15 GMT
It is pretty depressing how political Star Wars and fandom, in general, have become. For me, politics ain't where the juice in life is at. Yeah. Although, I should clarify, when I said that SWT is partisan, I meant that he has basically picked a side in the "fan wars", or "Disney Wars", or whatever term you want to use. His actual political stances? I've no idea. It's the polarity of everything that is so depressing and destructive.
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 5, 2022 23:44:50 GMT
In this case, I meant fandom politics, not politics politics. Although the two have been known to merge.
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 6, 2022 1:10:39 GMT
In this case, I meant fandom politics, not politics politics. Although the two have been known to merge. Yeah, I figured you did, but just wanted to make that clarification to avoid any confusion. I don't like being pulled into sides (in either area). It's obvious I have come down hard on Disney/LFL -- and the sequels themselves -- plenty of times. Yet I sometimes say more positive things about them, too.
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 6, 2022 3:00:55 GMT
In this case, I meant fandom politics, not politics politics. Although the two have been known to merge. Yeah, I figured you did, but just wanted to make that clarification to avoid any confusion. I don't like being pulled into sides (in either area). It's obvious I have come down hard on Disney/LFL -- and the sequels themselves -- plenty of times. Yet I sometimes say more positive things about them, too. We do both have a good time with Episode 9. It ain't a boring movie, that's for sure.
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