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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 12, 2022 23:11:39 GMT
Can I take the opportunity to wish a big welcome back to Darkslayer? He joined in April 2019, so he was the last new member before I joined (it's my 3 three year anniversary actually), and our subsequent boom in membership.
This site may be very divided on the Disney material (especially the sequels), but our devotion to the Lucas Saga (Episodes I-VI) has never been stronger!
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 3:14:41 GMT
Can I take the opportunity to wish a big welcome back to Darkslayer ? He joined in April 2019, so he was the last new member before I joined (it's my 3 three year anniversary actually), and our subsequent boom in membership.
This site may be very divided on the Disney material (especially the sequels), but our devotion to the Lucas Saga (Episodes I-VI) has never been stronger!
Haha, appreciate it! Honestly I forgot about this site and assumed it was dead, but then clicked on accidentally today and discovered a lot of old names I hadn't seen in awhile from the RYL proto-thread on the JCF. Were you on the JCF? |
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 3:19:59 GMT
It’s great to see you again, Cryo! Been a hell of a long time and yeah, I remember you and mikeximus being banned and unfortunately a decrease of posts from some of other vets. Luckily we still have darkspine10 I did see you on the Prequel Appreciation Society website but I think the owner shut down comments a few years ago if not mistaken. Indeed. So happy to cross paths with you again, Del. If you remember us being banned, you must have been quite perceptive at the time. The mods tried to cover it up. But as the saying goes: "You can fool some of the people some of the time..." I posted on the SWPAS from time to time. I don't recall making that many posts, but one or two prequel fans seem to have noticed me there. And yeah, unfortunately, Lazy Padawan stopped updating her blog in 2018. In the 2017 to 2022 period (i.e., from when I disappeared on TFN until your rediscovering me here), I initially sustained myself with hidden group discussions with some people on TFN from the PT section (many of whom have accounts here), then later started posting in the comments section of Naboo News (where I had met and had many exchanges with ArchdukeOfNaboo ), until finally taking the plunge and using my account here on Naberrie Fields (which I registered all the way back in February 2017, as soon as our webmaster Subtext Mining set the site up, and actually before being banned on TFN). This site, you might say, is something of a protest site against TFN. Not even against the moderation, per se (although that, too), but for the way anti-prequel trolling was still commonplace in 2017. All the gloating over TFA had begun and there was a strong sense of Disney finally correcting all the wrongs of the PT. Look how that turned out... Anyway: Arch Duke, in fact, is largely responsible for Naberrie Fields jolting to life. I told him about this website on Naboo News back in 2019, then he encouraged me to pick up my account here, and before long, the two of us were racking up posts on NF and it started to get a little busier. I've joked that there's a certain sick irony in the fact that this website, in acronym form, is one letter less than TFN! Fate is a cruel jester. In the words of Obi-Wan: "Not to worry -- we are still flying half a ship." While it would be nice to see this place get a little livelier, it has a certain chilled-out mood that is very "Naboo", and it's quite the pleasant place to inhabit after the despicable Orwellian cesspit of TFN. Nobody has to watch their words here. If Rey is a Mary Sue to you, she's Mary Sue -- period. If the prequels are the greatest Star Wars thing ever, well, you can keep asserting it without interference from OT fanatics and Disney mouthpieces (or so-called third-wave feminists). We're an alliance of Lucas lovers and we're not shy about our love for all things Lucas here. I lurk, but not as much as I did, say, a year ago? I wouldn't like to attempt to quantify my lurking, but I'm pretty sure it has diminished in recent months. And lurking in the past few years has been just as much in the Sequel Trilogy section as the PT board. For a time, I had a new fixation (oddly: I still really like TROS), and I was keen to do what I did during the prequels: read as many perspectives and gather as many insights as possible. In part, I pushed the prequels to one side. But mainly in terms of not being so driven to read fresh insights on them (fresh insights, these days, are a little thin on the ground). Still, I did notice some of your posts, and I was reminded that TFN still has some smart and genuinely passionate prequel fans still posting in their defence. And yes, the tide is turning. The prequels are no longer a lousy excuse for a bunch of toy commercials or the epitome of everything wrong with modern cinema. I believe some other Star Wars movies may have recently moved in to claim those accolades. It's not a time for boasting or complacency, however. Lots of people still look down at the PT and its fanbase, and the media still encourages the usual trash perspectives (by and large). But at least some people can finally admit there was a lofty vision to the prequels and actually a story being told. You know, it's like George Lucas planned it to be this way, or something... It's really quite fascinating you say you weren't invited, but found us via a random Google search!!! I can only imagine some of the cogs turning in Arch Duke's head right now. We've discussed how to increase visibility and interest. This might be our worst fear: Many fans still have no idea this website exists, and it's pot luck whether they may one day stumble on it or not. I wish fans were sneakily sharing this website's URL around like contraband on TFN. I see it has been mentioned in one of those inane "social threads" in the PT forum. But that's like a monkey accidentally typing out a page from "Hamlet" and then dropping it in the garbage masher. Thank you for the compliment(s). If we have anything in our favour, it's a small number of TFN veterans choosing to still stick up for and wax lyrical about the PT. Although Disney projects draw the eye, prequel devotees spewing mad passion for the PT is this site's bread and butter, its raison d'être. If you want me to advertise to some (carefully selected) people on TFN, I'd be happy to. Good to see you old friend. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 12:39:02 GMT
If you want me to advertise to some (carefully selected) people on TFN, I'd be happy to. Good to see you old friend. Welcome, Mr. Slayer! Good to see you out of carbon freeze and finally active.  Cool avatar, too, BTW! You can spread the news of this site if you like. We could do with a few more of the right people joining. |
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 15:21:56 GMT
Sounds good. I got banned again on TFN (of course) so as soon as I am allowed to use the site again I will get on it.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 13, 2022 15:25:01 GMT
Nope. I did, however, set up an account on what I think was the official forum on starwars.com, in either 2011 or 12, just as I was starting to re-engage with the mythology on the Blu-Ray release. I was an early adopter of High Definition television, and stuck my nose at the DVD releases for several years, and highly anticipated this new release. What a Christmas present it turned out to be! Although I now regret my techno snobbishness, the Blu-Ray boxset still remains my most treasured home video item. Anyway, I never got time to post on this forum, it was hastily shutdown like so many other things, during the transition to Disney ownership.
I really only started off with Naboo News, it was a lively place for discussion during the period between TLJ and TROS, and somewhat of a replacement for the Star Wars Prequel Appreciation Society. It was the SWPAS which caught my eye for prequel fandom, there was nothing else quite like it during a time when everyone was salivating over the blatant rip-off that had been TFA, which had been accompanied by a a very visible disdain for the prequels that even its actors couldn't resist. Whose laughing now, Adam Driver? One might hope Abrams has also been humbled with the backlash to TROS. It's not easy making Star Wars.
I'm still awaiting moderation of a comment I left on SWPAS in early 2020. I email the webmaster and it seemed she lost interest for a variety of reasons, though she still found it useful, bizarrely, to update its Facebook page, last I checked. Discovering the SWPAS was like getting to ride a bicycle or kiss a girl for the first time, it was a marvellous, exciting new experience, and just lurking there will forever remain one of my highlights of the Star Wars fandom. I love your Mace Windu avatar by the way. Subtext Mining and jppiper do take note, the default avatars are boring as hell.
You can spread the news of this site if you like. We could do with a few more of the right people joining.
Yes, spread the Good News, Darkslayer! We're always open to new members. We've had quite a few who joined, only to disappear a few days or weeks later, unfortunately, so we need to replenish our ranks.
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 16:28:58 GMT
Sounds good. I got banned again on TFN (of course) so as soon as I am allowed to use the site again I will get on it. OMG, a running theme... What were you banned for??? |
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 16:38:11 GMT
It was the SWPAS which caught my eye for prequel fandom, there was nothing else quite like it during a time when everyone was salivating over the blatant rip-off that had been TFA, which had been accompanied by a a very visible disdain for the prequels that even its actors couldn't resist. Whose laughing now, Adam Driver? One might hope Abrams has also been humbled with the backlash to TROS. It's not easy making Star Wars.Damn straight. And yeah, I like TROS, but I hope Abrams has been humbled, if only to get a taste of what Lucas endured for twenty years. They steamrolled over Lucas and all the valuable input and guidance he could have provided, thinking they could do better and wow the fans with their easy course-correction. Karma's a bitch, ain't it?
What is this strange experience you speak of?
They serve their purpose, but they're too generic. Mace is cooler. His expression there is similar to mine every time I read a new post by anakinfansince1983.
Ah, that's exactly what I was thinking in my last response. We're like early Christians, operating under a dangerous pagan empire, trying to spread the message and find more brothers and sisters for our cause.
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 19:27:12 GMT
Sounds good. I got banned again on TFN (of course) so as soon as I am allowed to use the site again I will get on it. OMG, a running theme... What were you banned for??? Posting a screenshot of Ingram's Star Wars film rankings that featured an image of Howard the Duck with boobs. They wanted proof he was still alive as he has grown into a bit of a legend over there, so I gave it to them. I am a bit confused, it's not like I have history of posting stuff like that, I posted a warning that is was NSFW, it was in the social thread where we just have fun and pretty much can do whatever we want, and I have been on pretty good, as I call it "TFN Behavior" lately. I would have given a warning, but hey what do I know, it's not like I've modded online before (yes this is sarcasm I have modded on another forum before). It's just confusing. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 19:29:49 GMT
OMG, a running theme... What were you banned for??? Posting a screenshot of Ingram's Star Wars film rankings that featured an image of Howard the Duck with boobs. They wanted proof he was still alive as he has grown into a bit of a legend over there.Whaaaa-?!!! Ingram or Howard the Duck?  Okay, but seriously... You were banned for that?Bloody, bloody hell. It remains a humour-averse, hyper-sensitive, fascist shithole. |
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 19:31:23 GMT
Posting a screenshot of Ingram's Star Wars film rankings that featured an image of Howard the Duck with boobs. They wanted proof he was still alive as he has grown into a bit of a legend over there.Whaaaa-?!!! Ingram or Howard the Duck? Okay, but seriously... You were banned for that?Bloody, bloody hell. It remains a humour-averse, hyper-sensitive, fascist shithole. Read my edit. I'm just baffled by all of this. And it was by Seagoat, who's usually pretty chill. I just don't get it. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 20:03:20 GMT
Whaaaa-?!!! Ingram or Howard the Duck? Okay, but seriously... You were banned for that?Bloody, bloody hell. It remains a humour-averse, hyper-sensitive, fascist shithole. Read my edit. I'm just baffled by all of this. And it was by Seagoat, who's usually pretty chill. I just don't get it. Grrrgh, grrggh, grrgh... Blood pressure rising, blood pressure rising. Fark. Fark, fark, fark. I could tell you stories... "Usually pretty chill". Yes, you nailed it. That's totally the image he puts out, but I suspect the reality, based on my own dealings with him (just before and just after my own ban), is slightly different. You know what, Darkslayer? To quote Jeff Goldblum in "The Lost World": Boy, I hate being right all the time. I'm seriously mad right now. Here's a post that may shed some light on the matter for you: Reply #73 of this thread by yours truly written two years ago. Caution: Long read. I am a bit confused, it's not like I have history of posting stuff like that, I posted a warning that is was NSFW, it was in the social thread where we just have fun and pretty much can do whatever we want, and I have been on pretty good, as I call it "TFN Behavior" lately. I would have given a warning, but hey what do I know, it's not like I've modded online before (yes this is sarcasm I have modded on another forum before). It's just confusing. Well, yeah, it's a social thread, and you're all just meant to be having fun and takings things in your stride, right??? It's hysterically nonsensical. On the surface, at least. You have to delve into things a bit more to see what is really going on. That's precisely why I've been like a dog with a bone over the shitshow that is TFN the last few years since my ban. I've exposed it all. Wait till you gain access to the private forum. There's more in there to chew on. Being banned for posting, well, how do I say this -- duck tits -- is actually quite explicable when seen through the lens of an oppressive feminist ideology, combined with the remnants of puritan religion (feminism is largely just a secular form of it), which all the mods broadly follow the basic dictates of -- because it usefully keeps them in power. You can always find excuses to ban people when you're in power, feeling bored, irritated, angry, and inferior. Heck, anakinfansince1983, the most rampaging, condescending termagant of all time, who has even bragged of ensuring that TFN would clamp down on an alleged culture of "sexism", and who constantly denigrates other people for holding opinions that differ to her own, glowering over them and implying they are under threat of being removed from the conversation, just the other day employed her usual hide-and-seek, Jekyll-and-Hyde tactic of casually shrugging off any hint of oppression. In the middle of an exchange in which some people aired perfectly respectable views concerning the nature of a civil but impassioned dialogue (what I would have thought a message board based around a series of films, television shows, comics, novels, and video games is all about), she basically said, no, it's not about dialogue or debate, or making other people "feel obligated to change their minds" -- it's "just entertainment" to her: boards.theforce.net/threads/do-the-sequels-increase-or-decrease-the-value-of-the-saga-to-you.50057596/page-8#post-57983230(Post #92) The unbelievable, stunning hypocrisy of that! She's a total villain and the mods are very much drunk on their power. You can also consider her response here in light of what she just said above: boards.theforce.net/threads/george-lucas-hates-you-about-being-banned.50049614/page-2#post-55189594(Post #32) "I stopped at “bans aren’t the fault of the user.”"That's right, she considers everyone else beneath her. The burden is on them to justify their actions, never on her. Remember, as she just claimed, it's "just entertainment" to her. Such psychopathic removal from the idea of human fallibility or systemic error, combined with blatant doublespeak, always accompanies a thirst for power. Seagoat pretends to be nowhere near as involved in the decision-making process as other mods; and he also pretends, by extension, to be detached from the ideology of other moderators like anakinfansince1983. In reality, he's an opportunist clinging to power; albeit "beta" to anakinfan's "alpha". In other words, he's an idiotic cuck. BTW, welcome again to Naberrie Fields, where ol' Cryogenic in his approaching grumpy middle age doesn't hold back on anything. |
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 20:48:47 GMT
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I would have given a warning, but hey what do I know, it's not like I've modded online before (yes this is sarcasm I have modded on another forum before).
It's just confusing.[/quote]Right -- exactly.
My overall point is, the ban is unnecessary. Just give me a warning and I'll respect you enough to not do it again.
Cryo, if you could remove the content I edited out of my post, I'd appreciate it. Don't want that floating around on the web, that's I removed it.
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 21:03:10 GMT
Cryo, if you could remove the content I edited out of my post, I'd appreciate it. Don't want that floating around on the web, that's I removed it. Well, just to be clear: The first version of your post was one line, which I responded to. You then said you'd edited your post and I responded to that version. Now you've edited it again. I'm happy to revise my post for you and have my response conform to your new edit. Please give me a few minutes to make the appropriate adjustments. UPDATE: Edit applied. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 21:11:39 GMT
My overall point is, the ban is unnecessary. Just give me a warning and I'll respect you enough to not do it again. Well, my overall point was/is: Most bans there are unnecessary. But they ban people anyway. They enjoy it. It almost gives them a sexual thrill. They're fascists. Time some people started facing facts. Human beings are not good. Nowhere near as good as they like to paint themselves, anyway. |
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 13, 2022 21:15:44 GMT
My overall point is, the ban is unnecessary. Just give me a warning and I'll respect you enough to not do it again. Well, my overall point was/is: Most bans there are unnecessary. But they ban people anyway. Time some people started facing facts. Human beings are not good. Nowhere near as good as they like to paint themselves, anyway. I do agree with you man. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 13, 2022 23:50:50 GMT
Well, my overall point was/is: Most bans there are unnecessary. But they ban people anyway. Time some people started facing facts. Human beings are not good. Nowhere near as good as they like to paint themselves, anyway. I do agree with you man. I'm a bleak bastard, Darkslayer! Must be why I like the PT.  There's something frighteningly true about its premise. Lucas has said it's all about people believing they're doing good when they're not. |
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Post by Pyrogenic on Jun 14, 2022 0:56:24 GMT
That face you make when you're a totally unnecessary Banner: /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/67426099/experience_avengers_day.0.jpg) |
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 15, 2022 19:00:11 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Jun 15, 2022 19:05:54 GMT
That face you make when you're a totally unnecessary Banner: it took me hours to get that, two times. |
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Cool avatar, too, BTW!
