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Post by Subtext Mining on Jul 12, 2021 19:28:03 GMT
I've been digging these Medieval renditions of songs from the Prequels.
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Post by Subtext Mining on Sept 1, 2021 19:17:53 GMT
The Prequels... always predicting things.  |
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Post by jppiper on Sept 1, 2021 20:22:13 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Sept 2, 2021 1:05:40 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Sept 15, 2021 15:35:05 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 6, 2021 16:00:40 GMT
Just found this. A newly-released mini-documentary interview with Devon Michael -- one of the "final three" Anakins for Episode I.
Of course, Jake Lloyd did an excellent job and you could see how calm and centered he was, right from the moment he appears in "The Beginning". But fans have often said that Devon was the best or the most intense and smouldering one, with deep, piercing eyes and a resemblance to Leonardo DiCaprio.
From the description:
Growing up, Michael had small roles in commercials, television shows and movies. At 9 years old, he understood that an opportunity like “Star Wars” could change his life. From 3,000, the producers narrowed it down to three, and soon Michael was at Skywalker Ranch doing a test screen with George Lucas and Natalie Portman. The role ultimately went to Jake Lloyd, who experienced a level of criticism and bullying that would be alarming for even an adult actor. In Ben Proudfoot's "The Unchosen One," Michael shares his experience as a child actor and urges the public not to forget that they’re just kids.
He seems like a nice, humble guy. Some quotes:
"A little impoverished kid gets picked out of the masses to do something that's really extraordinary."
"Getting to Skywalker Ranch -- in my mind, it's the gates of heaven."
"Anakin Skywalker: I saw him as a kid who looked calm and focused, but inside of whom there was something else."
"People think showbiz kids -- we're used to rejection, we don't mind it when you criticise the way that we are, look, think, act. But, we're still kids, man."
"The Dark Side can happen to anybody, right? But it depends on how you tell your own story. How you tell your story to yourself. Maybe that's what the Force is: Giving yourself personal permission to see things differently."
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Post by jppiper on Oct 8, 2021 22:57:03 GMT
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Post by Ingram on Oct 9, 2021 3:12:31 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 10, 2021 3:01:40 GMT
A few simple things that always fill me with joy: a) People queuing to see Star Wars.b) People queuing to see Star Wars in 1977.c) People queuing to see Star Wars in 1977 on release day.d) People queuing to see Star Wars in 1977 on release day outside of Mann's Chinese Theatre.e) People queuing to see Star Wars in 1977 on release day outside of Mann's Chinese Theatre and how snugly and perfectly the Star Wars logo fits the marquee.Like... fuck, yeah! An extremely wholesome and satisfying photograph. A few more pics in colour. (Caution: Possible sensory overload. Those 70s tones are a thing of beauty.)    |
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 10, 2021 3:13:39 GMT
Yikes. The male gaze. LOL, some of the comments... To be fair, it is slightly cringe-inducing... IMO, anyway. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Nov 15, 2021 0:29:58 GMT
Cryogenic You beat me to it. The video that the YouTube algorithm would not let me ignore.
I found the little documentary quite moving actually. Devon comes across very well, lovely chap it seems.
I've always been someone whose gravitated towards the "what if" questions and this was certainly one. I'm in no way trying to belittle the good work Llyod done, but it is nice to ponder how a different casting would have changed the dynamics of the film.
Is there anywhere else we could move a conversation about this? I feel like one on child actors in Star Wars, or something similar might be more apt than getting lost in miscellaneous
Sidenote: He looks so unrecognisable to his blonde 9 year old self. Yes, I know male early balding is a thing, but still, I found it quite noticeable.
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 15, 2021 1:02:07 GMT
Cryogenic You beat me to it. The video that the YouTube algorithm would not let me ignore. Right?  That was how I found it, too.
It's very well-made. Devon does seem like a mature, grounded person. It's strange (if not surprising) that there's a degree of bitterness and sadness from some of the cast members -- and cast members that never were -- around these films. Devon clearly took it hard. As did Jake. And Ahmed. Natalie and Ewan got off lightly in comparison, and Hayden has never expressed any regrets, but yeah. I guess Star Wars is so big that it does things to people. Whether you "win" or you "lose", it powerfully affects you.
Indeed, I'm much the same. Devon lost out, I think, not because of his looks or his performance, but because Lucas had a very different idea of Anakin in his head. Perhaps Devon and that other boy ( Michael Angarano -- who, unlike the other two, has managed to remain in the acting business) were really only brought in to clarify to Lucas that a sweet-natured Anakin, whom Jake embodied, was the right choice for him: i.e., the only Anakin he ever really wanted. It's weird, though, because Lucas initially wrote Anakin to be a little older, and presumably, not quite so effervescent or innocent. And being kids, coached by parents and agents, these would-be actors would have had every reason to believe they had a fair shot at the role. Indeed, Lucas and casting director Robin Gurland supposedly auditioned over 3,000 child applicants for the role, so maybe Lucas took a while to zone in on what he wanted. True, it really deserves its own thread. But no-one even acknowledged my post, till you! I thought it would have generated a bit more interest, to be perfectly frank.
I have early male pattern baldness. Don't we all wish we had Lucas' hair? But yeah, his complexion has altered, as happens with most people by the time they reach their mid-20s or early-30s.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Nov 15, 2021 1:31:46 GMT
I have early male pattern baldness. Don't we all wish we had Lucas' hair?
Well I guess I'm privileged in that sense. My father is in his late 50s and he's rocking a nice head of hair on him like Lucas, no grey hairs either (he tends to warn the barber not to go too bare whenever he does go for a clip). I'm not that much younger than Devon, and I can look at school photos of myself at 7-8, and see a lot of resemblances, especially hair colour, jaw etc. You hear comments on the internet about all these Hollywood actors ageing well, but I tell you what, half of it is probably an inheritance lottery.
It's hilarious getting adverts on Instagram for treatment to deal with early baldness. I'm like the last person you should be aiming at haha.
I do admire GL's hairstyle too. Timeless stuff really. Luke's hair in ANH a bit too much on the long side, needs a bit smartening up.
Should we do a thread for hairstyles in Star Wars?
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 15, 2021 4:41:36 GMT
I have early male pattern baldness. Don't we all wish we had Lucas' hair?
Well I guess I'm privileged in that sense. My father is in his late 50s and he's rocking a nice head of hair on him like Lucas, no grey hairs either (he tends to warn the barber not to go too bare whenever he does go for a clip). I'm not that much younger than Devon, and I can look at school photos of myself at 7-8, and see a lot of resemblances, especially hair colour, jaw etc. You hear comments on the internet about all these Hollywood actors ageing well, but I tell you what, half of it is probably an inheritance lottery. Yeah, my dad started losing his hair in his twenties, also. He was a little worse than me at the same age(s), though. Being a drinker and a smoker isn't helping his cause. I still have a fair amount of hair on top, but it's a lot thinner that it used to be, plus obvious recession. Luckily, I look pretty good with it buzzed down, but I wish there were a proper cure, and not the risky path of Propecia/Finasteride (which I don't take). On the other hand, I only have a few greys. Again, that seems to be genetic, as my dad only started showing greys more recently (he's in his early 60s now).
Well, you never know. It wasn't like I ever shed a ton of hairs or anything. It was very subtle in the beginning. But the hair loss world is a huge market. And it affects both men and a significant fraction of women once they hit the menopause.
GL has always appeared extremely youthful and distinguished, and I think his great, indecently thick mound of hair has something to do with it.
I think Luke has the best haircut in TESB. Mark Hamill was in better shape for that movie, too.
"Sure! Absolutely!"
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Nov 15, 2021 17:39:09 GMT
OK, we really need to get back onto topic, after that hairstyle detour!
I was listening to a long form interview of Devon on the Rebel Force Radio podcast today. I could not recommend it any more. "The kid who was almost Anakin" is the episode name, from 15 October. You'll have to do a little skipping at the start.
I'm not going to post any YouTube clip because: A) On my recent return to this forum whilst browsing different threads, I notice videos are disappearing (including ones I've posted) B) I don't like the monopoly Google (ie YouTube) virtually has on video hosting. We need more alternatives, in a less centralised system. C) Most importantly: you don't even need video. Podcasts are best experienced through the medium of audio (hopefully they have good microphones)
Find it where you find your podcasts instead
Devon is a real treat to listen to. As someone who works in storytelling, he's very thoughtful on the mythology. He can empathise with Lucas the writer.
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Post by Pyrogenic on Nov 17, 2021 21:16:56 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 24, 2021 16:09:55 GMT
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Post by Subtext Mining on Nov 27, 2021 17:42:49 GMT
Orson Welles  Try telling that to Prequel dislikers. Norhing is random/pulled out of nether-regions. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 27, 2021 23:12:42 GMT
Orson Welles Try telling that to Prequel dislikers. -- Arthur Schopenhauer, "The World as Will and Representation" (Vol. II, Ch. III, para. 31 (On Genius), 1844) |
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Post by Subtext Mining on Dec 31, 2021 15:57:38 GMT
Carrie Fisher conducting an interview in French in 1977.
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That was how I found it, too.
