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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 10, 2022 0:29:50 GMT
I do quite enjoy John Boorman's adaptation of Morte D'Arthur, Excalibur. That movie has style for days.
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Post by tonyg on Nov 10, 2022 12:11:35 GMT
I do quite enjoy John Boorman's adaptation of Morte D'Arthur, Excalibur. That movie has style for days. I have never liked this movie. I like the operatic style of SW that is seen more obviously in the prequels, but the obviously "theatrical" representation of Arthur's story in Excalibur annoys me. Annoys me even more than The Mists of Avalon that is over the top feminist interpretation of the legend, I wouldn't even begin with the First Knight that is western with medieval costumes (for the record I'm an avid fan of the western movies in general). Well, maybe my expectations for the story to be told were quite different. Speaking of adaptations, the movie Coriolanus is worth to be mentioned here. The story of the Roman general share some similarities with the story of Anakin: he is a soldier: a warrior that despises the politics and respectively fails un his attempt to enter in it and he betrays his city after he is proclaimed the one who have saved it and unites with the enemy. However, there is a big difference between both characters: Anakin received his redemption but Coriolanus didn't (nothing new about Shakespeare, he was not exactly merciful toward the fallen heroes). I like how the movie successfully translates the plot from Ancient Rome to contemporary times and the duel with combat knives instead of swords is just great. The aesthetic of the movie however is quite different from PT: is ascetic and grey and far from the splendor of the prequels but the similarities in the story can be easily seen. |
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Post by Ingram on Nov 10, 2022 12:42:03 GMT
I do quite enjoy John Boorman's adaptation of Morte D'Arthur, Excalibur. That movie has style for days. I have never liked this movie. I like the operatic style of SW that is seen more obviously in the prequels, but the obviously "theatrical" representation of Arthur's story in Excalibur annoys me. Big fan of Boorman's Excalibur. But I get it. Even beyond adaptations of Historical Romance, it's just a divisive movie period. It's weird, truncated, intermittently clumsy, high-minded yet almost comical in its melodrama and uncontrolled performances. I certainly never looked to it as an integral attempt at Malory's material and yet as a standalone the movie breathes deep with its own offbeat inspirations. It's maybe the last of the 1970s headspace genre experiments despite being an '81 release; it could pass as some kinda concept-concert fantasy via Jethro Tull. I think it best appreciated in montage form, robust with stagey set-piece impressionism and symphony. Then again, I also kinda grew up with the film so perhaps mine is in no small part a nostalgia love.
Also, Helen Mirren is still the hottest Morgana.
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 10, 2022 21:25:01 GMT
I have never liked this movie. I like the operatic style of SW that is seen more obviously in the prequels, but the obviously "theatrical" representation of Arthur's story in Excalibur annoys me. Big fan of Boorman's Excalibur. But I get it. Even beyond adaptations of Historical Romance, it's just a divisive movie period. It's weird, truncated, intermittently clumsy, high-minded yet almost comical in its melodrama and uncontrolled performances. I certainly never looked to it as an integral attempt at Malory's material and yet as a standalone the movie breathes deep with its own offbeat inspirations. It's maybe the last of the 1970s headspace genre experiments despite being an '81 release; it could pass as some kinda concept-concert fantasy via Jethro Tull. I think it best appreciated in montage form, robust with stagey set-piece impressionism and symphony. Then again, I also kinda grew up with the film so perhaps mine is in no small part a nostalgia love.
Also, Helen Mirren is still the hottest Morgana.
I did not grow up with the movie. I saw it for the first time a couple of years ago, so my love is not based in nostalgia. I just love movies that don't fetishize realism. Also, Sir Patrick Stewart trying to lift Excalibur is one of the greatest (hilarious) performances ever put on film. You just don't get to see that sort of thing every day. Agreed on Morgana. I had no idea Helen was such a hottie back in the day. |
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Post by maychild on Nov 28, 2022 9:18:04 GMT
Big fan of Boorman's Excalibur. But I get it. Even beyond adaptations of Historical Romance, it's just a divisive movie period. It's weird, truncated, intermittently clumsy, high-minded yet almost comical in its melodrama and uncontrolled performances. I certainly never looked to it as an integral attempt at Malory's material and yet as a standalone the movie breathes deep with its own offbeat inspirations. It's maybe the last of the 1970s headspace genre experiments despite being an '81 release; it could pass as some kinda concept-concert fantasy via Jethro Tull. I think it best appreciated in montage form, robust with stagey set-piece impressionism and symphony. Then again, I also kinda grew up with the film so perhaps mine is in no small part a nostalgia love.
Also, Helen Mirren is still the hottest Morgana.
I did not grow up with the movie. I saw it for the first time a couple of years ago, so my love is not based in nostalgia. I just love movies that don't fetishize realism. Also, Sir Patrick Stewart trying to lift Excalibur is one of the greatest (hilarious) performances ever put on film. You just don't get to see that sort of thing every day. Agreed on Morgana. I had no idea Helen was such a hottie back in the day. She was, and at the time she and Liam Neeson (who plays Sir Gawain) were a couple. |
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on Mar 8, 2023 1:53:01 GMT
Compiling a list of sci-fi movies that have a similar digital style as the prequels, and these are what I have so far:
Treasure Planet (2002)
The Chronicles of Riddick (2004)
John Carter (2012)
Man of Steel (2013)
Jupiter Ascending (2015)
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets (2017)
Any others that would fit in with these?
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Post by Subtext Mining on Oct 8, 2023 20:51:48 GMT
A film I remember seeing in the theater when it came out, and I also had the soundtrack on vinyl. The underrated The Fox And The Hound. One big noticeable similarity is how the fight during the climax takes place between two best friends, Tod the Fox and Copper the Hound. Something not often seen, but which carries a lot of weight.  But also, the series of events unfold the way they do because of fear of loss and fear of loneliness. The Widow keeps Tod because she craves companionship, and eventually makes the difficult decision, for her, to leave him at the animal reserve for his own good. Amos the hunter seeks out Tod at the reserve as revenge. His older dog Chief was injured while chasing Tod, and he and Copper lashed out because were so shaken at the thought of losing Chief. |
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