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Post by stampidhd280pro on Apr 11, 2023 17:15:27 GMT
They NEED guidance from George on these bookend movies. The Mandalorian picture, not so much.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Apr 11, 2023 21:48:03 GMT
I agree that they need guidance from George on the origins of the Jedi film, otherwise it has the same amount of legitimacy as the ST, which is to say none at all. Mangold I think may be more receptive to GL’s ideas though that’s mostly speculation on my part.
The Rey film (which will probably be called Episode 10 for marketing reasons) gives the feeling though that Disney and Lucasfilm are doubling down on all the mistakes of the past, and if they frankly can’t get even the Mangold film right I may as well be done with the franchise, what little interest I still carry
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Post by smittysgelato on Apr 12, 2023 20:12:18 GMT
If midi-chlorians do not have a significant role in Mangold's film, it will indeed be fanfiction. After all, without the midi-chlorians, we would have no knowledge of the Force.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Apr 12, 2023 20:19:34 GMT
Fuck midichlorians. What about the Whils?
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Post by smittysgelato on Apr 12, 2023 20:25:34 GMT
Fuck midichlorians. What about the Whils? The Whills and the midi-chlorians go hand in hand, of course.
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Post by Somny on Apr 12, 2023 21:40:38 GMT
Fuck midichlorians. What about the Whils? The Whills and the midi-chlorians go hand in hand, of course. Like in a symbiont circle? Mangold must understand that the midi-chlorians continually speak to us, telling us the will of the Force. I'm sure when he learns to quiet his mind, he'll hear them speaking to him.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Apr 22, 2023 19:12:22 GMT
It'll be wonderful. Forget the Patty Wilkins cancelled film, forget the cancelled film by the Game of Thrones creators, forget all other cancelled projects. This is definitely happening. And what can go wrong with a director of this calibre:
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Post by smittysgelato on Apr 22, 2023 19:23:14 GMT
Pretty damn sure I will be degrading myself if I watch that clip, so I am just gonna say no and not click, lol.
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Post by jppiper on Apr 22, 2023 22:58:36 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Apr 22, 2023 23:55:21 GMT
It'll be wonderful. Forget the Patty Wilkins cancelled film, forget the cancelled film by the Game of Thrones creators, forget all other cancelled projects. This is definitely happening. And what can go wrong with a director of this calibre:
Pretty damn sure I will be degrading myself if I watch that clip, so I am just gonna say no and not click, lol. I was actually looking forward to the Rey movie until I watched that clip. Fucking hell.
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Post by smittysgelato on Apr 23, 2023 0:57:20 GMT
Well, the day the movie was announced I looked through the director's IMDB, and that alone was a giant red flag.
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Post by Cryogenic on Apr 23, 2023 0:59:22 GMT
Well, the day the movie was announced I looked through the director's IMDB, and that alone was a giant red flag. Yeah? To me, their filmography made them seem a promising choice, but their attitude in that clip is pretty obnoxious. Maybe it's a British thing. We hate queue jumpers.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Apr 26, 2023 17:13:53 GMT
Wait the director was at the World Economic Forum lol
This is a gift for conspiracy theory types
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Post by smittysgelato on Apr 26, 2023 18:49:04 GMT
Wait the director was at the World Economic Forum lol This is a gift for conspiracy theory types Exactly. Cancel the culture war please, because I am soooo bored of it.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 24, 2023 15:22:24 GMT
I saw a cast photo for The Acolyte...The lead actress looked to be cosplaying as Padme (although the costume was not exact). I had no desire to watch that show...
Leslye Hedland, the creative behind The Acolyte, is what you guys would call a walking, talking dumpster fire. Have you heard the nonsense she's said about George Lucas? It tells you all you need to know about how utterly inept, clueless, smug and ungrateful these spoiled brats currently lording over Star Wars are.
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Post by smittysgelato on Jun 24, 2023 18:44:20 GMT
I saw a headline about her saying something about George Lucas being an example of the misogyny of the myth of auteur theory. Needless to say, I didn't click on the headline and read the article because I just simply didn't want to know. xD
I mean, just the use of the word "myth" as a synonym for falsehood is one of my personal pet peeves (see my signature).
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Post by jppiper on Jun 24, 2023 20:01:22 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 25, 2023 4:16:57 GMT
I saw a cast photo for The Acolyte...The lead actress looked to be cosplaying as Padme (although the costume was not exact). I had no desire to watch that show... Leslye Hedland, the creative behind The Acolyte, is what you guys would call a walking, talking dumpster fire. Have you heard the nonsense she's said about George Lucas? It tells you all you need to know about how utterly inept, clueless, smug and ungrateful these spoiled brats currently lording over Star Wars are.
I originally commented on Headland's remarks last September in the General Grievances thread in the Lucas Era section. Quoting the first paragraph of my post from there: She promulgates several contemptible fallacies here, not the least of which is her advancing a false dichotomy (combined with a strawman) concerning the auteur theory of film. A good filmmaker is meant to instill in people working for them, and helping to achieve their creative vision, that they can be relied upon for an answer to virtually any question; not that they necessarily have all the answers in advance. It's not about a filmmaker lying or being a conman. A good filmmaker is meant to have extremely sharp instincts, including an ability to assemble, work with, listen to, and adeptly both plumb and constrain the egos of hundreds of other artisans, technicians, and sundry creative personnel. In short, they know what they want; or rather, what they don't want; and they work heuristically, hour by hour, day by day, until the desired ends are achieved. Even if George Lucas got a little lucky with Star Wars along the way and with some of the talent that was hired (e.g., Ben Burtt, Ralph McQuarrie, John Williams), it doesn't mean he wasn't competently running the ship or undeserving of being given all the support and respect duly owed to a Commander-in-Chief. Moreover, in the case of Star Wars, the results that Lucas achieved speak for themselves. Now, I can meet Headland half-way and concede that Hollywood is, no doubt, rife with sexism and misogyny, but that isn't the green light to trash the man who incepted Star Wars, brought it to realisation, and basically gave you (her -- assuming that's "her" pronoun) a job. The sheer ingratitude and staggering entitlement in her remarks blow my mind. Her tone when mentioning the prequels is also incredibly crass: a tone which even the likes of J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson never quite stooped to. It's utterly amazing. So, in all those ways, I agree with Star Wars Theory. Although, in one area, I depart from his words and have a criticism to make: I saw a headline about her saying something about George Lucas being an example of the misogyny of the myth of auteur theory. Needless to say, I didn't click on the headline and read the article because I just simply didn't want to know. xD I mean, just the use of the word "myth" as a synonym for falsehood is one of my personal pet peeves (see my signature). It's funny you bring that up. Star Wars Theory is either dyslexic or simply too lazy to check the words on the very screen (the captions) of the video recording he is commenting on. The exact same term (auteur theory), correctly spelled, flashes up in that moment of Headland's speech in the video that SWT is commenting on, yet he bizarrely fluffs the spelling into the Google search bar, generates incorrect results, then bypasses the whole thing and blames his editor? Unless he was poking fun at himself or Headland in some obscure way, that's really sloppy and hobbles his own response. I'm not saying I disagree with what he says in the bulk of his video, but he misses a solid opportunity there to delve into that aspect of her "critique", and so, instead of offering a cogent rebuttal, his video response is basically a simplistic piece of rhetoric: a piece of virtue signalling that is a performative act centered around defending George Lucas' honour, instead of opening out into a broader take-down of Headland, as progressive wrecking ball, and showing her up for the proselytising psy-op agent she is. What I'm saying is, her shitting on the concept of the auteur theory of film, and even trying to imply it's an inherently sexist concept, implicitly another tool used to defend "the patriarchy", is the thing that really needed unpacking; but SWT swerves away from it because he's making a stupid joke and pretending not to know the term (which makes him look ignorant), or he can't read or type properly (perhaps speaking is his forte), or worst of all: he really is just too darn lazy to actually do any damn research beforehand and make sure he knows what he's talking about; or at least know what other people are talking about (especially the person he's supposedly in shock about based on the words he's reacting to that they have uttered). Basically, I'm sick of the ideology and the intellectual arrogance and the contempt for learning and minutiae in all directions. Know your shit (or at least have a reasonable handle on the borders of your own ignorance) or keep quiet.
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Post by jppiper on Jun 25, 2023 4:57:08 GMT
CryogenicAuteur a filmmaker whose personal influence and artistic control over a movie are so great that the filmmaker is regarded as the author of the movie.
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Post by smittysgelato on Jun 25, 2023 18:55:07 GMT
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