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Post by Ingram on Nov 9, 2021 21:06:11 GMT
I still wanna see a Patty Jenkins Rogue Squadron movie, for what it could be worth. Thus far these feature-length Star Wars spinoffs are the only ones of the Disney-era that have satisfied my (consciously lesser tier) palate. And Wonder Woman 1984 was dorky fun, a Snyderverse superhero movie dipped '80s Supergirl candy swirls.
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 9, 2021 21:48:37 GMT
I still wanna see a Patty Jenkins Rogue Squadron movie, for what it could be worth. Thus far these feature-length Star Wars spinoffs are the only ones of the Disney-era that have satisfied my (consciously lesser tier) palate. And Wonder Woman 1984 was dorky fun, a Snyderverse superhero movie dipped '80s Supergirl candy swirls. She's pretty much the perfect director Star Wars has yet to have. |
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Post by jppiper on Nov 9, 2021 22:22:04 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 10, 2021 0:40:48 GMT
Just a bunch of idiots speculating and complaining. I don't even care about the spinoff material. I'm happy with the movies. But doesn't Lucasfilm have many things on the boil? I mean, sheesh, six years ago, "The Force Awakens" hadn't yet released, let alone "Rogue One", "The Last Jedi", "Solo", and "The Rise Of Skywalker" (that's five films in just four years), nor in TV land had "The Mandalorian" yet been produced, nor had "The Resistance", and "Rebels" had only been going a year, and fans were unfortunately still waiting for the final season of "The Clone Wars" to air. I don't even have to get into the books, comics, games, toys, etc. People honestly need a bit of patience and perspective, instead of bitching like entitled manchildren every five seconds. Yes, it's disappointing when things are pushed back, and a bit comical in Lucasfilm's case (that's how many delays and cancellations of major projects now?), but my point remains. On the other hand, Lucasfilm should understand the excitable nature of the Star Wars fanbase by now, and maybe stop promising on things it can't deliver. Those readily positing nefarious motives on behalf of Lucasfilm may need to acquaint themselves with the following: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planning_fallacyYes, sadly, human beings have many, many biases, and we suck at accounting for all the variables that tend to hinder a big undertaking in reality. |
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Post by jppiper on Nov 10, 2021 2:55:56 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 10, 2021 3:04:48 GMT
Say it ain't so, Joe. Many of these people are cut from the same cloth. That's sort of what I mean: They offer little authentic insight on anything. |
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Post by jppiper on Nov 10, 2021 5:57:06 GMT
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 10, 2021 20:10:52 GMT
Rogue Squadron getting delayed doesn't exactly break my heart. I'm more excited for the Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and Acolyte series.
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 11, 2021 2:23:10 GMT
No, Joe, sorry. Courtly intrigue and gossip-mongering are so boring to me. Just nerds chewing the cud. If you want to do something worthwhile, learn about crypto! Trust me. |
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Post by jppiper on Feb 13, 2022 20:40:21 GMT
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Post by Ingram on Jun 16, 2022 10:28:22 GMT
Full article:
Yay. Only about seven years too late, I sez. But here KK and Co. are thinking they've been struck by some lightning bolt of an epiphany.
And am I the only one not feeling this whole Waititi business? His cutesy viral-memetic style of blockbuster filmmaking only seems to exist by virtue of a saturated Youtube era supported by big studio industry FX supervision. Even his acclaimed pedigree broken down is just an assortment of marketable quirk and schmaltz. He's fine for Wes Anderson-lite dramedy and MCU accessory fluff, but he's hardly impressed me as some kind of virtuoso auteur, and yet here is being given the keys to a new galaxy far, far away. I swear, do the execs at Disney actually look for writers/directors or do they just look at charts?
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 16, 2022 14:52:40 GMT
Can someone explain to me how Waititi became such a household name? He strikes me as nothing more than a shallow, pretentious goof, and the personification of soulless, hack it 'till they accept it, manufactured-for-consumption, modern cinema.
He's like a cross between JJ Abrams and Jimmy Fallon. Does anyone genuinely find him funny? We're talking about a "creative" whose idea of satire is dressing up as Hitler, as if Charlie Chaplin hadn't done justice to the subject in the 1930s, and we needed to be reminded of the thread of Nazi zombies. He has an air of Ralph Wiggum about him, slow to recognise trends, never being able to be ahead of the curve.
I prefer my filmmakers more professional, more elegant, more clinical, more dynamic, without the try-hard humour, letting their films doing the talking. Lucas is the great role model here, but even Deborah Chow, in fairness to her, seems to aspire to this mentality.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Jun 16, 2022 15:08:04 GMT
I agree with both Archduke and Ingram-
Watiti’s dude bro humor doesn’t fit Star Wars at all- whenever that style of humor was deployed in the ST it was awkward as hell. This guy simply doesn’t have the chops to create a new story out of whole cloth within the Star Wars universe.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 16, 2022 15:17:56 GMT
We'll see how his latest gig in the cultural appropriation of Norse mythology goes. If it tanks, you could easily get Disney pulling the plug on him. Don't forget, they've already done it to the guys behind Game of Thrones.
If Lucas, an American, is committing cultural appropriation for taking elements of Mongolian and Japanese dress for TPM, then so too are you Waititi, a New Zealander, taking from the old religion of Denmark, Norway and Sweden. Would I be right in guessing your pal Anakinfan engages in these double standards Cryogenic? |
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Post by Pyrogenic on Jun 16, 2022 15:20:31 GMT
“From Visionary Director _________”
*lottery balls dropping*
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Post by Ingram on Jun 16, 2022 20:08:25 GMT
Can someone explain to me how Waititi became such a household name? He strikes me as nothing more than a shallow, pretentious goof... He's like a cross between JJ Abrams and Jimmy Fallon...
Wow. You came down a lot harsher than I did, and yet I'm compelled to not disagree. I mean, that last Thor: Ragnarok was colorful to look at and trivially amusing but it definitely exhibited a complete lack of faith at investing superhero-fantasy with its own mythic edge & gravitas in favor of pure hardcandy pop.
I campaigned (alone, seemingly) for a clean slate Star Wars from day one -- the acquisition of Lucasfilm -- and have bemoaned the lack thereof ever since. Ironic, then, how I am at this point more inclined towards an X-wing Rogue Squadron movie than the latest trendy hipster filmmaker potentially morphing the whole thing into a next-level joke of itself simply to achieve maximum accessibility for normies.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 16, 2022 21:16:04 GMT
Can someone explain to me how Waititi became such a household name? He strikes me as nothing more than a shallow, pretentious goof... He's like a cross between JJ Abrams and Jimmy Fallon...
Wow. You came down a lot harsher than I did, and yet I'm compelled to not disagree. I mean, that last Thor: Ragnarok was colorful to look at and trivially amusing but it definitely exhibited a complete lack of faith at investing superhero-fantasy with its own mythic edge & gravitas in favor of pure hardcandy pop.
I campaigned (alone, seemingly) for a clean slate Star Wars from day one -- the acquisition of Lucasfilm -- and have bemoaned the lack thereof ever since. Ironic, then, how I am at this point more inclined towards an X-wing Rogue Squadron movie than the latest trendy hipster filmmaker potentially morphing the whole thing into a next-level joke of itself simply to achieve maximum accessibility for normies.
Well, you will recall me going to town on the new Thor film in a thread elsewhere in recent times. I didn't mention the director, oddly enough, I think I should have. He's a big factor in it too. I've watched a number of interviews and I'm not a fan. It's nothing personal, I should clarify.
I dislike Marvel with a burning passion. I'm about as open to it as I am on relocating to Saudi Arabia. It saddens me what's become of modern cinema, I'm completely in the camp of Scorsese and Tarantino on how blockbuster franchises have sucked the lifeblood and creativity out of the industry, pushing independent pictures to the fringes and prioritising pointless sequels at all costs. This for me is why I look on positively at Television series: it's not because I fundamentally disagree with the narrative structure of film, or find two hours limiting, it's because I've found cinema to be under a cancerous infestation, and I need a refuge from it. I don't want Star Wars to become a two movie a year deal either, saturating the silver screen doesn't help, it only inflates the quality.
Film will always be the pinacle of screen drama, I will always champion independently owned cinemas, and I'll always encourage the communal, theatrical experience, but we also do need to have plan Bs. Television is, no less, my government in exile.
I'm not sure if I'll be back in the cinema until Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer. That one will be very interesting, and rather timely. My countryman Cillian Murphy is in the lead role.
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 17, 2022 0:40:25 GMT
I take it I’m the only here who’s been completely reeled in by the Marvel machine huh? 😂😂😂
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 21, 2022 20:37:27 GMT
I take it I’m the only here who’s been completely reeled in by the Marvel machine huh? 😂😂😂
Ah, I've no problems if others want to like it. It's just not my cup of tea. I think someone else set up a thread for those films in the other section, and I won't be intruding.
While I do realise that Star Wars is trying to morph into something resembling the so-called Marvel Cinematic Universe, it's my hope that it can stay away from that, and focus on core stories. The Skywalker clan will always be the heart and soul of the Saga, I get very irritated when people say "Skywalker Saga" because what they're actually saying is that this is merely one Saga among many, and you haven't seen anything yet. I'm sorry but this cuts completely against what Lucas stood for.
I simply despise the all-consuming, behemoth that Marvel became in the 2010s, sucking the lifeblood out of cinema. I think there was a much healthier model for film franchises set during the 2000s, it was more modest and left room for other films to be shown.
I don't think there is an appetite for films just because they say Star Wars. The sequels drew so many in because we were told they were successor stories to the originals, they featured the beloved Luke, Leia and Han. Even The Mandalorian, despite being a new direction, is living off the legacy of the original bounty hunter character in TESB. The Marvel films, by contrast, work off all these different character they've created decades ago in the comics.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 1, 2022 14:26:31 GMT
Well, either the Andor trailer looks incrediblely good for Disney Star Wars, or I'm just a sucker.
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