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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 30, 2022 23:46:44 GMT
Cryogenic But is 19 Years not long enough compared to 50? It could have been longer, but Lucas wanted it like that.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Jun 30, 2022 23:51:10 GMT
Cryogenic But is 19 Years not long enough compared to 50? It could have been longer, but Lucas wanted it like that. Why?
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Post by jppiper on Jun 30, 2022 23:57:27 GMT
It could have been longer, but Lucas wanted it like that. Why? Someone thinking 19 Years between Trilogies wasn't long enough
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Post by Cryogenic on Jul 1, 2022 0:00:06 GMT
It could have been longer, but Lucas wanted it like that. Why? Because he did?
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Post by Cryogenic on Jul 1, 2022 0:08:57 GMT
Someone thinking 19 Years between Trilogies wasn't long enough It's about the bare minimum you can get away with, but some fans will always prefer their own ideas.
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Post by tonyg on Jul 2, 2022 16:39:57 GMT
tonygSo did you watch the video i sent you? Yes, but it is a little too extreme while I think that he (Kasdan) is far from the type of characters like Anakin and his son and understands Han Solo better. But the hero of Lucas SW is Luke and the tragic hero is Anakin, so the accent of the movie is actually far away from the cliche of the cool cowboy in space.
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Post by jppiper on Jul 4, 2022 14:57:19 GMT
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Post by tonyg on Jul 4, 2022 16:59:44 GMT
I would say it again: romance in TCW is more teen-like. That's why is .... tolerable for the fans who whine against the prequels because they know this type of romance and what happened in the prequels is very odd to them. Is classic but is unknown i.e. uncomfortable for them. And the ironic thing is that what happens in the prequels is much more realistic (in-world) as Padme and Anakin are secret husband and wife who have to steel precious moments living in a very troubled times.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jul 8, 2022 17:00:40 GMT
r/StarWars at it again. It's like a whack a mole with this false premise, the more you debunk them, the more they keep coming back up.
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Post by jtn90 on Jul 8, 2022 20:10:30 GMT
r/StarWars at it again. It's like a whack a mole with this false premise, the more you debunk them, the more they keep coming back up.
God, that post and it's coment section is a lucas bashing shithole, how can people take a simple fun anecdote from Ewan and turn it into a excuse to hate on Lucas, like I was gonna say that actors helping another actors isn't proof that he is a bad director, and them there is a repley that say "but Lucas just told him to get more suspicious", like are you saying that Daniel Logan was so dyumb to not undestand what does that it mean? Are actors retards that need constant babysitting to do their job?. And then the comments start to scalate until some people say that Lucas doesn't get human emotions," we are told Obi Wan and Anakin are good friends but we never see it, we are told Anakin and Padme love each other so much but it just seen on a superficial level". and hten other comments with the classic " George was saved by actual talented people". Is people like these that I can't see the comment section on anything Star Wars related.
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Post by jppiper on Jul 8, 2022 21:52:00 GMT
jtn90They want Realistic Oscar-Worthy Method Acting!
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Post by Cryogenic on Jul 8, 2022 23:21:14 GMT
jtn90 They want Realistic Oscar-Worthy Method Acting! Which isn't Star Wars (in other words: exactly, Joe). Applying the "method" approach to Star Wars is overloaded given the already fantastical nature of the films. It's like mixing blue cheese with a fruit smoothie. The romantic strangeness of the setting calls for a more restrained, stylised approach. Star Wars is basically a radio serial in space. And that's not to say it is found wanting in the acting stakes. Plainly, people like Alec Guinness, Peter Cushing, Liam Neeson, Christopher Lee, and Ian McDiarmid deliver solid, commendable performances. Then you have the often-ignored or overlooked talents like Anthony Daniels, Frank Oz, Ahmed Best, Pernilla August, Jimmy Smits, the indomitable Brian Blessed, and Andy Secombe as Watto. Then there's the charisma of Ewan, the rogueish thrill of Harrison, the smoldering quality of Hayden, the internal eccentricities of Mark, the sardonic wit of Carrie, the A-lister ephemerality of Natalie, the bright-spirited energy of Jake. Not much is lacking in these six movies. (My apologies for the deflection to TFA on the last page. This should really be about the Lucas movies only). If you load up ROTJ, you also see how intriguing Lucas made Star Wars look and feel, thanks in no small part to the adept and immensely satisfying blending of humans, aliens, and droids. Star Wars is a world teeming with action, flush with personality, full of playfulness and pulpy verve. It's somehow all there. These people would be the sort in another age bashing Charles Dickens for being a purveyor of cheap, crowd-pleasing fiction, accusing him of a bland writing style and of filling his books with characters too exaggerated, pompous, or twee to be taken seriously. Kinda, you know, missing the woods for the trees. Lucas probably has a lot in common with Dickens. There's the compassionate angle, the rip-roarious imagination, the deftly-curated sentimentality, the cunning morality. And the fact that Lucas almost seems to fancy himself as a kind of 19th Century philosopher or retro-futurist. And people out of time (or out of sync with modern times) are always bashed for being silly, indulgent, misguided, and out-of-touch. The other thing that pisses me off about this whole "Lucas can't direct actors" nonsense is that it trivialises the films as simplistic stage plays. They're really not stage plays at all. Naturally, they evoke the theatre, and they are, in essence, action-dramas (or even, perhaps, action-comedies), but there's a lot more to these movies than that. They're also, to steal some Ingram coinage, "imagination station" art installation pieces. Practically holographic in their colourful topologies, their fiendishly fascinating surfaces, their poetic and tightly-fastened construction. I've used the term architectonic before. Lucas himself has even said he considers himself something of a frustrated architect. You can put any of them on and just marvel at the visual (and aural) mastery on display. Episode I alone is a feast of fully-realised art direction and magnificent, soaring production design. One doesn't need to be dwelling on how well a human actor is emoting when watching the Gungans fending off the Battle Droids on the grassy fields of Naboo. This is gorgeous cinema being shunned and attacked by philistines. I'll close with a quote from The Maker himself: www.newyorker.com/magazine/1997/01/06/why-is-the-force-still-with-us
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Post by jppiper on Jul 9, 2022 0:10:05 GMT
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Post by smittysgelato on Jul 9, 2022 0:12:47 GMT
I was re-watching The Ten Commandments last week and the thing that struck me the most was how dramatically De Mille poses his actors, as if they are figures in a painting. That seemed SO unmethod to me and I LOVED it.
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Post by Cryogenic on Jul 9, 2022 0:19:34 GMT
I was re-watching The Ten Commandments last week and the thing that struck me the most was how dramatically De Mille poses his actors, as if they are figures in a painting. That seemed SO unmethod to me and I LOVED it. I like different acting styles and directors/filmmakers with something to say. "Tokyo Sonata" (2008) is like that. It has an offbeat quality with these strange, posed moments within it, where characters literally pause on a few occasions as if frozen in place. The film is something of a tribute to "Tokyo Story" (1953) and the other films of the legendary Yasujirō Ozu. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Ozu's films. Like many things, it's an oversight I should work on correcting soon. But yeah, an unorthodox approach is needed to keep cinema from getting boring and overly familiar, and different approaches suit different material in different ways. After all, a filmmaker's job is to shape the material into something interesting. That is basically what filmmaking is. In the words of Roger Ebert: "It's not what a movie is about, it's how it is about it."
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Post by jppiper on Jul 12, 2022 22:54:10 GMT
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Post by nickromancer on Jul 13, 2022 3:41:24 GMT
always hated this sentiment. IMO George Lucas giving Grievous a snivelling personality made the character better
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Post by smittysgelato on Jul 13, 2022 4:59:25 GMT
always hated this sentiment. IMO George Lucas giving Grievous a snivelling personality made the character better Yeah, I don't need more badass villains, thanks. Variety is good.
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Post by Ingram on Jul 13, 2022 5:03:38 GMT
4 minutes and 22 seconds of me trying to place that guy's accent. Danish? Argentinian? Filipino? Argentinian auto-tune?
Why can't people on the internets just speak American like goddamn normal...
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Post by Cryogenic on Jul 13, 2022 12:45:21 GMT
4 minutes and 22 seconds of me trying to place that guy's accent. Danish? Argentinian? Filipino? Argentinian auto-tune?
Why can't people on the internets just speak American like goddamn normal... I always knew you were part Unionist, part Confederate soldier.
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