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Post by Moonshield on Jun 27, 2021 7:54:18 GMT
Moonshield Nice work. There's an underlying literary pull to the prequels that's quite, ah... erm... disarming, wouldn't you say? This is my favourite novel ever and I studied it at school, so I am disarmed since 2005, my friend.
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Post by Somny on Feb 4, 2022 21:27:59 GMT
The sheer comic absurdity of this visual is perhaps one of the top five reasons AOTC is my favorite SW film:
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Post by Subtext Mining on May 24, 2022 17:54:25 GMT
Don't try to grow up too fast...I love this sequence at the beginning of Padmé's apartment scene, as Anakin finds himself alone for the first time, about to start his first solo assignment. Adult responsibilities newly placed on his shoulders, we see he's not a kid anymore. Here it's like Anakin is looking back into his past, and/or the last moments of his childhood, and of innocence in the galaxy, which I feel is accentuated by Williams' score. Then as Jar Jar turns to leave and attend to his responsibilities on his first assignment, Padmé turns to walk through her archway and we are immediately struck by her Princess Leia hair in silhouette. It is now just Padmé and Anakin alone, in a bedroom, and we the audience have their future daughter in the forefront of our minds - a very adult theme and sure enough we see and hear just how much Anakin has grown up. Including trying to flirt with Padmé.
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Post by Ingram on Jun 6, 2022 4:54:53 GMT
The Phantom '80sTrue, 'magic hour' can be strongly associated with just about every decade of color cinema & photography, yet there is some low frequency vibe to The Phantom Menace that entices me to draw parallels with a certain metro-costal atmosphere of dusk lighting -- often filtered through venetian slats -- as fancied so prominently throughout 1980s visual art, real or romanticized; the cross-pollination of film, commercials, music videos, magazine photography etc., and often bookended with US cities New York and Los Angeles, or in the inner-worlds of American suburbia. Coruscant is not costal but it still evokes an evening commute home from the office, grabbing some food and stepping through the front door minutes before primetime network television. Coruscant is Fritz Lang by way of Ralph McQuarrie then converted into pop-magnetic-tape color circa 1986. When the first seismic fates of Lucas' saga are being decided or put into motion, so much of it occurs in a single late-afternoon into evening. Around 5:30 pm7:30 pm8:10 pm
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Post by Alexrd on Jun 6, 2022 9:45:12 GMT
The Phantom '80s True, 'magic hour' can be strongly associated with just about every decade of color cinema & photography, yet there is some low frequency vibe to The Phantom Menace that entices me to draw parallels with a certain metro-costal atmosphere of dusk lighting -- often filtered through venetian slats -- as fancied so prominently throughout 1980s visual art, real or romanticized; the cross-pollination of film, commercials, music videos, magazine photography etc., and often bookended with US cities New York and Los Angeles, or in the inner-worlds of American suburbia. All of that brings one film to mind: Koyaanisqatsi
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 6, 2022 10:31:29 GMT
Ingram , Alexrd The prequels are freakin' beautiful and 1980s cinematography is the best.
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Post by Ingram on Jun 6, 2022 10:44:18 GMT
The Phantom '80s True, 'magic hour' can be strongly associated with just about every decade of color cinema & photography, yet there is some low frequency vibe to The Phantom Menace that entices me to draw parallels with a certain metro-costal atmosphere of dusk lighting -- often filtered through venetian slats -- as fancied so prominently throughout 1980s visual art, real or romanticized; the cross-pollination of film, commercials, music videos, magazine photography etc., and often bookended with US cities New York and Los Angeles, or in the inner-worlds of American suburbia. All of that brings one film to mind: Koyaanisqatsi Goddamn right. One could source half a dozen or more images from that film alone for backdrops removed from twilight Coruscant only by a difference in architectural geometry.
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Post by Subtext Mining on Jun 6, 2022 11:15:18 GMT
Yeah, that sequence in TPM is pretty mesmerizing. I was comparing it to the first act in American Graffiti in the Scene Analysis thread. And I like what Cryogenic pointed out about the sun seemingly setting at an accelerated pace in the establishing shots. Even though the traffic is traveling in real time.
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 6, 2022 11:23:02 GMT
Yeah, that sequence in TPM is pretty mesmerizing. I was comparing it to the first act in American Graffiti in the Scene Analysis thread. Some of it wasn't even planned. According to "Star Wars: The Making Of Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace" by Jody Duncan and Laurent Bouzereau, Lucas showed his nascent film in the rough cut stage to Steven Spielberg. Spielberg expressed concern that Anakin had seemingly forgotten about Padme on Coruscant, so Lucas added that scene of him going to say his goodbyes. A really nice addition, I'm sure we can all agree. Oh, that part, yeah. It's very dream-like. I like the fact that it is conveyed in three distinct shots, too.
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Post by Ingram on Jun 8, 2022 11:48:55 GMT
Hack the Clones: 199X pixel noun pix·el | \ ˈpik-səl
1 : any of the small discrete elements that together constitute an image (as on a television or digital screen) 2 : any of the detecting elements of a solid-state optical sensor (such as a CCD or CMOS device)
What decade of shlock cinema, I ask you, was more influenced by its burgeoning technological counterculture? The 1990s B-rental era was riding waves. Cybernetics of the late '70s and throughout the '80s was one thing, its biomech premises limited to isolated software, red-scans and little tubes pumping milky-white stuff; its media premises an exaggeration of UHF mega-corps and cable television. But the '90s yielded a universe online and in turn leveled the playing field like never before between corporate supervillains and any lowly (anti)hero or member of "the resistance" who could interface his way to revolution by booting up or jacking in-to the net, the grid. The grid, then, as a concept would take on a pseudo-existential expression of emotional realities with acts of cognitive transference or even literal expressions of spacetime as heroes could be killed then reborn across separate realms. With budgets ranging from reckless to limited, often the thriftiest of plot formulas involved some linear cat 'n' mouse chase between tracker and courier, assassin and renegade, bounty hunter and their bounty—themself always the possessor of some data file vital to humankind. Even with cyberspace as a de facto detail or, alternatively, films set in present day, depicted cityscapes were unified in their natural evolution just beyond the art deco memorials of Blade Runner to become labyrinthine extensions of virtual dystopias with a stronger fusion of then-contemporary Asiatic and Eurocentric milieu, and with a stronger proclivity towards MTV rave that by that time was in full swing. Where director Danny Cannon was the first to adapt Mega-City One with brutalism and holograms, a Mœbius rendering of space-age Manhattan was Luc Besson's style of choice; and less we forget the anime cities where buildings looked like gargantuan external hard drives. Otherwise, save for a one or two big studio productions that had the money to spend on cutting edge FX, the future from the '90s typically offered low-rent matted sprawls dotted with oriental languages or generic billboard electronica. But always noteworthy was a distinctly sensual fetish for one or more of the stock dystopian sci-fi premises -- A.I., cyberspace, cyborgs, hacktivism -- that were often fashioned with heroines/sidekicks made up like sex dolls and altogether seemed to realized unknowingly at least one or more aspects of the correlating urban futurist-fantasy table-top RPG Shadowrun. Also props to Danny Cannon for bringing to screens the first complete live-action set piece featuring an aerial vehicle chase through mazes of towering luminous structures; Besson would follow two years later more vividly featuring a most inconvenient cab fare. Despite whatever failings in storytelling respective to the films, these two sequences impressed for their time and marked clear lead-ins for that which we examine below. Lastly, we must appreciate yet another clear prototype, PS1's scroll-shooter Einhänder from 1998. Soak in the fighter chaos matched with virtual exotic cityscapes that seemed to be the culmination of all dystopic concrete jungle media from nearly two decades leading up thereto, and at high-speed!
...and then George Lucas & Episode II happened. The speeder chase through Coruscant is Digitization of the most quixotic order. What I find fascinating about this sequence, looking back twenty years later, is how artifactual it looks upon closer inspection; a nice way of saying dated. Yes, dated. Let's be real. Background vistas of Episode II's Coruscant are basic. Diminutive. Two-dimensional. By today's technical standards, almost unworked, as if we're seeing mere previz animatics only marginally upscaled. A negative? Not at all. Something uncanny is going on here: the sequence (Episode II, the PT) is NOT dated, but vintage. This movie doesn't deal in cyberspace virtual reality ...or does it? All the imagery above is not an argument for correlations with themes and motifs but a preface for aesthetic context [thus separate from Mirroring and Symbolism] where a Jedi aerial pursuit of a hired assassin equates a metaphorical information superhighway—what the '90s literalized so Lucas could then send further back into genre past to become Buck Rogers pulp made anew. Dated vintage yet nonetheless meticulously crafted for its day, and so among these sorta Favorite Frames I wish to emphasize gauze and palette, the momentum of action captured as split-seconds of evocative unfocus, along with precise attention to tableau.
"And where does the newborn go from here? The Net is vast and infinite." - Major Kusanagi Zam, hajib.
Using silhouettes effectively. The light-shift dynamic throughout this whole sequence is sophisticated almost beyond fathom.
Note the principle characters in each diorama are nearly identical in scale, Lucas' discipline in consistent ratio grammar.
Streaks. Even blurred, classic Star Wars is abstractly worthy of wall art.
AAAUUGH!!
I just love this. Obi-Wan is there but...not quite there. It's dreamlike compositing that practically begs for stereoscope. This image has the smell of glossy full-color book page.
The Anakin equivalent.
Lucas also understood a necessary contrast between fast and slow moving proportions in this shot, the super-ship like some kind of marine mammal grazing through star-plankton.
Some of those charming CD-ROM backgrounds I was talking about...
...and yet the application of pinpoint lights and delineated designs nearly breaks the critique. It's retro AND tactile all at once. How, goddammit?!
Great in-camera lighting slanted across the actors.
USB port. Pay attention to the green for enter and red for exit-only. FX supervisors who still abide in-universe logic.
One of my truly favorite shots. Feel the Force. Obi-Wan and Anakin's ionic night out on the town.
Another kind of brilliant light burst.
Bodyboarding the internet. I love how this part of the city has mall levels.
Zam diffused. She's very radio-theater, I can't exactly articulate why. There's a bit of The Shadow here.
The first Star Wars bathed in red-light-district neons.
Anakin thinks she is a changeling, and I think this coverage was done on bluescreen. And I dig it, once again: there, but not quite. It's two separate in-camera realities. George was on drugs.
Verhoeven's showgirls upfront and center / Verhoeven's Sharon Stone just off-camera, in the ladies room doing some coke. It should be appreciated the second wave sexual revolution that the '90s claimed along with the precursor to deepfake, digital morphing; both present with teen-Anakin's hormonal projections and the idea of a gender-fluid trans-species assassin.
If Attack of the Clones and its Coruscant gauntlet is not as much the full-on time traveling experience into the last decade of the 20th as I perhaps exaggerate here, fuck you if it doesn't leave gleaming traces. Just, something about it...
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 8, 2022 14:29:19 GMT
I'm seeing that Star Wars developed a "soupier" look after AOTC.
It's all AOTC's fault.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Jun 8, 2022 15:28:36 GMT
Soupy?
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 8, 2022 15:41:33 GMT
A bit digital-looking and smoothed over. Strange black levels. Like polished television. Plus, lots of ingredients thrown in and brought to the boil.
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Post by Subtext Mining on Jun 9, 2022 16:47:15 GMT
Yeah, that sequence in TPM is pretty mesmerizing. I was comparing it to the first act in American Graffiti in the Scene Analysis thread. Some of it wasn't even planned. According to "Star Wars: The Making Of Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace" by Jody Duncan and Laurent Bouzereau, Lucas showed his nascent film in the rough cut stage to Steven Spielberg. Spielberg expressed concern that Anakin had seemingly forgotten about Padme on Coruscant, so Lucas added that scene of him going to say his goodbyes. A really nice addition, I'm sure we can all agree. . Yeah, AotC has the jarring fake-beard Obi-Wan shots and TPM has the year-and-a-half older Ani shots. This one in particular was the first that stood out to me pretty early on. And the ones when he's in the Naboo fighter.
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 9, 2022 22:51:39 GMT
Some of it wasn't even planned. According to "Star Wars: The Making Of Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace" by Jody Duncan and Laurent Bouzereau, Lucas showed his nascent film in the rough cut stage to Steven Spielberg. Spielberg expressed concern that Anakin had seemingly forgotten about Padme on Coruscant, so Lucas added that scene of him going to say his goodbyes. A really nice addition, I'm sure we can all agree. . Yeah, AotC has the jarring fake-beard Obi-Wan shots and TPM has the year-and-a-half older Ani shots. This one in particular was the first that stood out to me pretty early on. And the ones when he's in the Naboo fighter. Weird. I only notice Jake looking older in the first shot. Anakin's growth cannot be contained!
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Post by Pyrogenic on Jun 9, 2022 23:32:38 GMT
Ingram: Here ya go, bud!
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Post by Ingram on Jun 10, 2022 3:21:43 GMT
lol
I watched that whole thing. And then I stood up from my chair and walked away.
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Post by Cryogenic on Jun 10, 2022 10:24:25 GMT
lol
I watched that whole thing. And then I stood up from my chair and walked away.
It's the most 1990s thing I've ever seen. Makes me want to fire up "Judge Dredd", "Independence Day", and "The Fifth Element", while loading up my old PC with a 3Dfx Voodoo2 accelerator card, have a blast of "Epic Pinball", run "3DMark", and play deathmatch and capture-the-flag in "Unreal Tournament". It appears to be taken from the following set of beautiful, early-CG art films: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%27s_Eye_(film_series)Pyro's always good with his obscure yet on-point references.
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Post by Darkslayer on Jun 14, 2022 3:22:56 GMT
Love this frame. I call it the “Don’t Screw With Yoda” shot.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 14, 2022 15:45:13 GMT
Ingram , your frame by frame series is proving to be a delight. And Moonshield , your blend of the PT and Dostoevsky is a treat - a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
This thread is becoming more powerful than any OT fanboy could ever dream of. And you're doing it to protect our fandom. For George.
Sidenote: Ingram's frames from page one have disappeared and been replaced with anti-war messaging; Moonhsield's shots on pages one to three have entirely vanished; a few images from smittysgelato on page three have also gone down; Pyrogenic 's video still viewable off site.
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