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Post by jediknightfett on Feb 17, 2020 23:02:28 GMT
For me I chose ROTS ESB and TLJ
I’ll explain why I chose TLJ since it’s definitely the most controversial pick of the lot. TLJ for me represented something fresh in Star Wars that the rest of the Disney movies have been missing. Yes you can say it destroyed Luke as a character or it was stupid for Leia to fly in space or that Canto Bight was useless. I’ll grant you that last one, but at least it tried to do something new and for me that was good enough despite its flaws.
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Post by emperorferus on Feb 18, 2020 1:39:58 GMT
ANH- pure Star Wars to me. Has a special charm and does a great job at establishing characters and showing their relationships and developments.
TESB- Takes the characters in new, darker directions. Love Yoda and Vader in particular. The Cloud City duel is probably my favorite in the saga.
ROTS- Great action and worldbuilding. Very emotional, and Anakin’s descent is well done. Palpatine and Obi-Wan are also highlights.
ROTJ is almost interchangeable with ROtS, but not quite.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Feb 18, 2020 3:28:03 GMT
For me I chose ROTS ESB and TLJ I’ll explain why I chose TLJ since it’s definitely the most controversial pick of the lot. TLJ for me represented something fresh in Star Wars that the rest of the Disney movies have been missing. Yes you can say it destroyed Luke as a character or it was stupid for Leia to fly in space or that Canto Bight was useless. I’ll grant you that last one, but at least it tried to do something new and for me that was good enough despite its flaws. I'd say these are probably the "correct" picks. And I totally agree with you about TLJ being necessary. It's like, the entire saga has been this non-stop distraction from reality. There are love scenes in the first 7 episodes but they are always drowned out by surrounding plots. When Kylo and Rey start connecting through the Force, it's like this whole fast-paced noisy film series suddenly stops and begins to tell the story that's been hidden underneath the whole time. The real war is within this connection between two people who don't even really know each other. And of course the Snoke death is another classic get-real moment. Is it just me, or doesn't that moment feel like a beating the boss in a video game and simultaneously killing the princess? It's like, okay, now what? TLJ really went places that Star Wars needed to go but didn't know it.
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Post by Alexrd on Feb 18, 2020 9:36:06 GMT
Oh, it went places. But I don't think empty shock value is something Star Wars needed, specially at the expense of everything else. Same for the complete absence of mythological undertones, which is but a consequence of the former.
I came to realize that TLJ and TFA are polar opposites. One is fueled by chaos. Of complete disregard for the past (pun not intended) and the rules of the game. The other is fueled by fear. Fear of originality, of thinking outside the box and not be 100% appealing. They don't necessarily fail for their extremism, but for story and narrative coherence not being respected and given its due importance.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Feb 18, 2020 17:26:40 GMT
“I think you’re boring. I don’t like plots and character-driven stories – cinema is pure...” GL
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Post by Alexrd on Feb 18, 2020 18:33:16 GMT
That doesn't contradict what I said. But this corroborates it:
"My life is making movies. I like storytelling..."
"Whenever there’s a new tool, everybody goes crazy and they forget that there’s a story and that’s the point."
"All I wanted to do was tell a story of what happened."
Lest we forget, Lucas is creating an art museum. But not any art museum. A museum named "The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art". It's as if he sees art as a storytelling device or something, and story being paramount to all art.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Feb 18, 2020 20:31:03 GMT
The same basic story was being told in TLJ as all the other films, including THX and American Graffiti. It shouldn't have shocked anybody. Perhaps you didn't like it for other reasons.
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Post by Cryogenic on Feb 19, 2020 19:40:38 GMT
The same basic story was being told in TLJ as all the other films, including THX and American Graffiti. It shouldn't have shocked anybody. Perhaps you didn't like it for other reasons. I wouldn't get too confrontational about it. Maybe you and Alex disagree on what constitutes relevant/appropriate storytelling. I think the Canto Bight sequence highlights the fact that TLJ is quite thematically consistent with the previous films, but it isn't necessarily eager to get the plot moving. To quote from this brilliant defence of the RJ movie: "This is the awkward thing about Last Jedi. A lot of ideas happen while not a lot of events happen." The way I see it, TLJ is exquisitely beautiful in more of a "meta" way, and it basically derives its potency from theme and atmosphere, more than events and explications. That is also what some find infuriating about it, I think. Then, of course, it is pretty subversive, and more than a little "off the beaten path". But I like exceptions and outliers. In Star Wars, exceptions and outliers are the norm. Aberrations, digressions, (di)vergences. Even Palpatine is surprised by how the Force has stuck Rey and Kylo together like clue. Thanks, TLJ! I disagree with Alex that there is a complete absence of mythological undertones present in TLJ. But I do get why he says it. It doesn't have the same sweep or largess of the former films, and certainly not the prequels. But there are some pretty interesting undertones in Luke's story. As I said back in Alex's "Disney" thread in October: naberriefields.freeforums.net/thread/22/before-dark-times-disney-wars?page=1&scrollTo=228The spiritual and mythical aspects of it... I think they're there. But a bit strangulated. Especially in TFA. "The Last Jedi" is just way, way, waaaay more serious. Luke is given a compelling "Fisher King" arc. It's a huge upgrade over how all the characters are presented in TFA. If anything, TLJ may simply be too serious, too murky, too dour. These are meant to be children's films. But TLJ feels more like a laboured therapy session for adults with prequel PTSD. Mind you, they only emerged with even greater PTSD. Rian Johnson -- the ultimate cinematic trickster. Talk about pouring "salt" onto an open wound. I can agree that maybe Star Wars needed to get a bit more "real". In fact, if you're being charitable, you could say the true depth and beauty of TLJ is captured in this old remark of GL's: "I believe in a certain amount of determinism, from an ecological point of view. It's that things essentially reach their own equilibrium. If you don't live a certain way, ecologically speaking, you will be forced into a position that will level it. What I would call an "unpoetic" state will eventually become a "poetic state", because an unpoetic state will not last. It can't. It's like economics. It's like life, it's like animals, it's like everything. You can set up an artificial reality, but eventually it will equalize itself, and become real."
--George Lucas, p. 108, The Making Of Star Wars: The Definitive Story Behind The Original FilmAnother interesting Lucas remark from the same chapter: "Star Wars is built on top of many things that came before. This film is a compilation of all those dreams, using them as history to create a new dream."--George Lucas, p.106, The Making Of Star Wars: The Definitive Story Behind The Original Film
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Post by Ingram on Feb 21, 2020 10:48:18 GMT
Having already shot my three favorite, I suppose I should now follow up in detail, discussion being the purpose of this thread.
A NEW HOPE
It remains the biggest dare, whose rusty financial/technological/first-timer limitations only accentuate that much more the high-conceptual approach to virtually every facet of its core being: thematic structure, cognitive imagery, visual/editing language, arcane tonal/stylistic appropriations etc. It's self-contained, standalone. It's the one Star Wars movie that, more than any other, can simply be (1977) Star Wars. A one-and-done. Its narrative proceeds here casually and there briskly with equal ease, and where the emotional content of its story & characters is cleanly conveyed with a kind of universal shorthand still unmatched. It's the most comical Star Wars movie; not innocently puerile humor (PT) nor forced, hyperextension gimme-laughs (ahem, ST) but that distinctly documented, unchecked sense of wry tomfoolery carried over from the shit-talking teenagers of American Graffiti. The whole pitch of the movie is very in-camera in that respect, from the candid three-take limit performances to much of the broadcast news B-roll footage of its sci-fi venues/passersby and even down to its recorded audio; I'd wager it bears the least amount of foley work and ADR from the saga. It almost plays like one prolonged gaffe of a Star Wars movie that not only manages to stick the landing, regardless, but is strangely all the better for it.
At the very least, such rough edges befits the storied circumstances that bring into a shared journey Edo period peasant droids, a Mojave Desert rural kid who knows engines, an aged David-Lean-alumni wizard from the wastelands, a v-necked ace smuggler -- introduced with surroundings just shy of a wartime Moroccan speakeasy and all her illicit goings-on -- along with his Himalayan Yeti expatriate, and a freedom fighter "Princes" in name only; in practice, no more regally poised than some fast-talking flapper storming her way into a downtown police station on a Saturday night to cause a ruckus. Hell, even Darth Vader, in every other installment an obsidian black totem of solemn cool, is here comparatively smudged under harsh light and volcanic in temper: "Commander, tear this ship apart until you've found those plans, and bring me the passengers! I WANT THEM ALIVE!" ...as if, for the right occasion, he still enjoyed being a visibly pissed off Wehrmacht general, in from the cold, before Episode V forever relegated his stature to that of the monastic 'dark father'. The original title, Star Wars, has long since been stripped of its verve and in place anchored with franchise and fandom legacy, but upon its initial release was the perfect monosyllabic connotation for a hotdogging ride through backworlds and a tech-brutalist space station where characters exist almost indifferent to the script, not as special snowflakes, but motley meteoroids—lawless, undecorative, spontaneous. Every installment that came after is more controlled or, unfortunately, overproduced to a numbing effect. But with this 1977 dirt bike of a Star Wars movie, the movieverse in question is (barely) held together only by the rafter of Lucas' aforementioned craft. ATTACK OF THE CLONES
The rarest artifact of all the Star Wars movies. The most "George Lucas" of all the Star Wars movies. It's as if the real George Lucas was a struggling filmmaker back in 1938 with flights of fancy yet stuck fast working for peanuts under Republic Pictures, who somehow astral-projected himself into modern day, circa 2002, appropriated digital filmmaking technology only to then craft a number of space opera serial chapters into a 2-hour-plus epic 'wonder tale', maximizing what were of his time popular (or at least perfectly acceptable) sophistications in pulp-serial melodrama with the highest of artistry, cinematic scope and 'movie magic' ambitions shared by the likes of Fritz Lang and James Whale—now finally realized! The film is beautifully, elegantly Radiopunk distilled, replete with all manner of shimmering, Art Deco-like chromium surfaces, World's Fair futurism, Buck Rogersesque displays of gravity-defying thrills (this is a distinctly aerial, rocketeering action film: jetpacks, flying cars, flying droids, free-falling Jedis ...Yoda), Errol Flynn swashbuckling heroics and weird planetary romance nonetheless fixedly slanted with a hint of Rockwellian quaintness. It's the Star Wars movie that, more than any other, stepped out from another time, or from the boyish headspace of such times wherein impossible realities promised in earnest adventure-romance and gumshoe mystery amidst exotic alien worlds. The movie's now dated digital embrace, both with photographic medium and CGI, is dated in the best ways. Odd, too, as just about everything commercial and spectacle driven these days across cinema is so ubiquitously digital, often uniform in its generic perfection; Attack of the Clones by contrast feels as crudely avant garde at present as it did opening day 18 years ago, only to an inverted effect. It still feels exhibitional, now more than ever, perhaps, as a novelty at once from the past and of a retro-future that never was.
Actors are choreographed to their marks in a constant waltz and emote with teleplay formality to an extent that surgically underscores every little inflection or nuance of the storied moment. In conjunction there is a lateral emphasis via Lucas' anamorphic framing in line with the comic-strip art logic of Flash Gordon, Secrete Agent X-9 and particularly the courtly tableaux of Prince Valiant in that you could break down his shots, or any aggregate thereof constituting a scene, and lay it out across a newspaper page resulting comfortably in a left-to-right visual reading. The advantage of 2nd acts or middle chapters lies within their noncommittal natures and Attack of the Clones is by no means the exception. Sprawled but leisurely, in no real hurry to get anywhere. You can't really lose yourself in Revenge of the Sith, what with its dramatic focus zeroing in like a pressure cooker on main characters and story arcs as they approach ever closer the trilogy's precipice, and while The Phantom Menace certainly offers up an exploratorium of world-building, the presentation is often equally rehearsed, like a tour guide following script as they lead a field trip of middle-schoolers from one exhibit to the next to a rigid schedule. Serving as an umbilical chord between Episodes I and III, this movie has about it narratively, dramatically and atmospherically a curious state of matter; thinking of a plasma lamp, if Episode I was the inner electrode and Episode III the palm of your hand then Episode II is the filament of softly luminous, charged neon gas: brilliant and dreamlike yet faraway within its insulated glass orb, truly the stuff of another realm. Tesla Star Wars. RETURN OF THE JEDI
The reserve. The clutch player. I'll hazard: borderline unquantifiably better than all the others...? How could this be, you ask? Return of the Jedi is no one insisting upon the idea of a Star Wars movie—the most unaffected of all the Star Wars movies, neither theoretical nor precocious; neither stoically abstract (PT) nor cheaply, desperately vying for our affections (ahem, ST). It is the one Star Wars movie that isn't trying to substantiate itself, existing rather in complete utilitarian fashion in service to simply telling the story ...and yet no less devoted to the craft; here, almost thankless in its execution. Artless. The first two installments of the OT caught in their sails the wind of novelty. The PT is the stuff of idiosyncratic pop-auteur infamy. The ST proved an elaborate, nebulous feint (arguably, in ways that can be appreciated) and the spinoffs are nonpartisan ventures; one as a personalized DeviantArt Star Wars movie, the other gestured thoroughly as an 'easy come, easy go' lite affair in heart of a career-long friendship with Lucas—to that end, a spiritual followup to Willow, and really no better or worse.
Episode VI, then, compared to all the above is (cue oxymoron) uniquely-stock.
Sure, everyone fawns over Skyfall for its chic arrangement and weighty pronouncements, which is fine and all. But there's something to be admired about, say, For Your Eyes Only as a Bond film that proceeds courtesy of its early '80s era with an equitable hands-off commission of plot, stunts and locations at face value. The movie is aboveboard visually and toneless akin to any network TV movie of that time, or an episode of Magnum P.I., yet budgeted to a level that affords scenic big screen spectacle and handsome production values. I raise this analogy in part because the DP for all three '80s Bond films, as a matter of fact (including Octopussy and A View to A Kill), in succession starring Moore was Alan Hume, the same cinematographer here for Return of the Jedi, and in all instances employed the most time-honored techniques in natural, unmixed color palettes and three-point lighting setups, though Star Wars certainly required of him some exacting low-light shadow work. Director Richard Marquand for his part also epitomized the journeyman sensibility. A documentary filmmaker who would eventually helm a couple three mid-range British-American productions in traditional genres such as horror and wartime melodrama/suspense, he came into Star Wars whetted but none too mannered. In his previous films Marquand acquired the no-fuss aptitude for staging/shooting squared and calling upon his actors a workshop pedigree in performances in order to facilitate traditional psychological drama and character-driven scenes; tasked, then, with appropriating Lucas' epic fantasy panorama, the matching communicated Star Wars in the most plainspoken dramatic language.
No scene in the movie, the entire franchise, stresses this point better than the first dialogue encounter between Luke and Vader in the catwalk of the landing platform base on Endor. The story content here in its presentation abstains from every extreme end of the spectrum -- impromptu versus heightened theatrics versus bold ellipses -- and is simply, quietly purposeful. It is not even about formalism or the movie as a knowing work of artifice; just the two characters submitting their opposed (yet longing) dispositions. The writing, costuming and art-direction is reasoned but so too is the mise-en-scène direction that manages to summarize the thematic elements at play using only two actors and the contained width of the set, and especially how one is framed alongside the other, facing or with his back to. And notice how either one or both of the characters remain largely center framed for the duration, the two etched out of black either by Luke's 'face of truth' or Vader's spectral-lit 'mask of tragedy'. The shot of Vader igniting Luke's saber makes for one of my favorite binary compositions, both visually and dramatically, as an angular glowing-green bar of light calls Luke to attention before swiping clockwise over the frame; a beat that cuts through the first ritual of their meeting and ups the tension, but more so in broader implications concerning how these two will eventually resolve their arcs. And I appreciate the economy of the scene with just over a minute and 1/2 of interaction between the two. It's measured but it doesn't drag.
I guess you just have to link to Youtube to watch it, but you get my point.
Even where some of the action staging is nondescript in its coverage (i.e., Jabba's sail barge or the pew-pew! exchanges between Storm-and-Rebel troopers) such naivete in an odd way frees the saga to exist as serial thrills mounted chiefly upon editing momentum and the joys of Williams' Mickey-Mousing score. But I maintain that Marquand's contribution to the final duel in the Emperor's throne room, to whatever degree it was, helped distinguish as much, for no other saber duel yields more transparently to its given storied juncture, and thus is yet another illustration of the movie as a whole. The ST duels were blow-outs of ratcheted up pretense or Anime-like indulgence (nods to Pyro). The PT duels were a pageantry of Peking dance and/or winding tone poems. Old Ben Kenobi against Vader was a chess game diversion appetizer while Luke and Vader's first clash in The Empire Strikes Back, most consistent to the one in question, was still orientated separately for a more beeline sense of peril and immediate anxieties, in turn staged coldly and technologically—Luke timidly creeping his way around corners and down corridors, as a knight would pursue a dragon deep within the latter's lair, or a vampire slayer would pursue Dracula deep within the latter's castle. But that phase of their conflict is long over by the time they cross swords again before the Emperor.
The setting here is not that of menace but resolution in the cloak of starfields, shadows and void, and where the martial combat itself, for the sake of choreography, is all but immaterial. I actually dig how the fight is boxed at length with medium-masters to an effect that pairs everything down to Luke simply as a character, as the hero, and therefore highlights it as a thing not of spectacle but of folklore. Even when Luke does cool shit like holding Vader off at a wide stance, kicking him down the stairs or back flipping onto a walkway, at this point it's fairly evident that he's superior in ability, so its really all just an extension of him negotiating the threat of the Dark Side while trying to redeem his father in the process. Again, I aim to articulate the modest yet canny utility with which this was all realized, from Lucas having found himself a comfortable position between creative author and on-set ghost director (to say nothing of his post-production command) to Marquand steadily ballasting the movie with his aforementioned masonry of docudrama and genre practices.
I love Return of the Jedi because a) it's just the stuff, and b) as such, it delivers in spades old pirate movies, pulp Orientalism, WWII 'adventure mission' plots, woodsy fantasy featuring wise spirits and fury little Indians and the last leg of our hero's journey leading all the way up to the final stage of evil space sorcery plus the ultimate existential mirror ...armed only with chivalry and his mind's eye.
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Post by Alexrd on Feb 21, 2020 12:02:35 GMT
I always had a somewhat frustrating experience with Return of the Jedi. I first saw it when I was at an age where certain filmmaking elements were becoming too obvious and were affecting my suspension of disbelief. The huge number of latex puppets with limited motion and visible meld lines (particularly Jabba and Sy Snootles), something we got in spades on the very first act, always affected my enjoyment of the movie (which is one of the reasons why I never had much of a problem with CGI. It's all fake and make belief. But at least we can get a proper performance, scale and numbers that would look invariably more jarring with latex puppets).
But then, it's juxtaposed with the best material of the whole saga: the end of Luke's journey. All of his scenes with Yoda, Obi-Wan, Vader and the Emperor: the heart and moral journey of the saga is all here, mixed together in a brilliant climax and all with John Williams excellent score:
And there's another aspect that, even though it's present in the other movies it's more pronounced here, makes it distinct and George Lucas-y. If something like this was made by a studio, it would be a story of revenge and power instead of selflessness and compassion.
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Post by emperorferus on Mar 10, 2020 18:56:20 GMT
I've been thinking about it and I've decided to change my vote.
My rankings have changed over time, but I think I want to put it as ROTJ, TESB, and ROTS.
I love ANH, but ROTJ just has a great triumphant ending, as well as the climax between Luke and Vader being my favorite in the saga.
I even like the Ewoks and Endor, and I am entertained by the Jabba's Palace segment. I like the youthful charm of it, since I like a lot of things that are a little "young" for my age.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Mar 11, 2020 23:50:29 GMT
I've been thinking about it and I've decided to change my vote. My rankings have changed over time, but I think I want to put it as ROTJ, TESB, and ROTS. I love ANH, but ROTJ just has a great triumphant ending, as well as the climax between Luke and Vader being my favorite in the saga.
Ah, you know if you hadn't made that change you'd have the exact top 3 as myself!
Regardless, I'm happy to see ROTS on top in this poll; strong showing from TPM too. Should we do one for characters in the future?
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Post by Cryogenic on Mar 12, 2020 6:04:44 GMT
I've been thinking about it and I've decided to change my vote. My rankings have changed over time, but I think I want to put it as ROTJ, TESB, and ROTS. I love ANH, but ROTJ just has a great triumphant ending, as well as the climax between Luke and Vader being my favorite in the saga. Ah, you know if you hadn't made that change you'd have the exact top 3 as myself! Regardless, I'm happy to see ROTS on top in this poll; strong showing from TPM too. Should we do one for characters in the future?
Characters, scenes/moments, action sequences, lightsaber duels, planets/locations, and maybe what people think are the three most important themes, concepts, or messages of the entire saga. I'm up for all of those.
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Post by Moonshield on Mar 31, 2020 6:30:14 GMT
ROTS, ANH, AOTC
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Post by natalie on Jan 15, 2021 19:42:36 GMT
Back in 2005-2010 it was probably Episodes III, IV and V. Because ANH and TESB are timeless classics, of course, and ROTS is the best of the prequels. Now that I'm old enough to for my own opinions regardless of what's trendy I pick AOTC, ROTS and ANH with ROTS being the favorite for the unique epic tragedy that it is. I've also really grown to like young Anakin and Obi-Wan, I only wish there was more of them in the movies, but I guess that's what TCW is for (still haven't finished it). Also, as a now middle-age adult, it's obvious to me the prequels is a product of a more mature mind with far more complex underpinnings than a relatively simple good vs. evil story of the OT. Luke is what we want to be while Anakin is closer to what we are.
With that said, I still love it as a stand-alone lighthearted adventure with a clear end in mind. It still has the best plot of any Star Wars movie and swashbuckling vibe that was impossible to fully return to after TESB. If I had to rank the original six now, I'd put have it as:
III IV II I V VI
Unlike most fans, I prefer movies with more George rather than less.
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Post by Somny on Jan 15, 2021 22:14:05 GMT
Back in 2005-2010 it was probably Episodes III, IV and V. Because ANH and TESB are timeless classics, of course, and ROTS is the best of the prequels. Now that I'm old enough to for my own opinions regardless of what's trendy I pick AOTC, ROTS and ANH with ROTS being the favorite for the unique epic tragedy that it is. I've also really grown to like young Anakin and Obi-Wan, I only wish there was more of them in the movies, but I guess that's what TCW is for (still haven't finished it). Also, as a now middle-age adult, it's obvious to me the prequels is a product of a more mature mind with far more complex underpinnings than a relatively simple good vs. evil story of the OT. Luke is what we want to be while Anakin is closer to what we are. With that said, I still love it as a stand-alone lighthearted adventure with a clear end in mind. It still has the best plot of any Star Wars movie and swashbuckling vibe that was impossible to fully return to after TESB. If I had to rank the original six now, I'd put have it as: III IV II I V VI Unlike most fans, I prefer movies with more George rather than less. In the thread, ROTJ's narrative and stylistic proximity to the PT is discussed at length. It's a really great conversation and may compel you to reconsider ROTJ in relation to the other films.
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Post by natalie on Jan 16, 2021 1:11:10 GMT
I like ROTJ well enough and the throne room scenes are my favorite in the saga. Admittedly, they became a lot better after the PT. It's just other plot lines (Jabba and Endor) drag for too long. ROTJ also featured the worst single retcon in the SW history - that of making Leia and Luke twins. It introduced the creepy incest vibe and even created the problems for the prequels. Basically Lucas was wrapping loose ends instead of caring for the future.
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Post by Somny on Jan 16, 2021 22:03:07 GMT
I like ROTJ well enough and the throne room scenes are my favorite in the saga. Admittedly, they became a lot better after the PT. It's just other plot lines (Jabba and Endor) drag for too long.
My local Regal theater held a marathon of all six saga films followed by the premiere of TFA when TFA was released in 2015. I attended and sat through the entire presentation (getting up only twice and only in-between films) and I distinctly recall the throne room scenes in ROTJ feeling far more weightier and profound than usual. Under those conditions, I felt the colossal burden on Luke's shoulders during those scenes like never before. For me, the entire experience really cemented the notion Lucas has floated a few times of his saga being one big film.
I get the charge of dragging on for too long - especially compared to the PT. In Paul Duncan's (author of Taschen's 'The Star Wars Archives' books) recent interview, he talks about each of the PT films being roughly 3x the size of each OT film in terms of scenes and locations. For all that added density, the resulting PT films are astoundingly tight and well-paced. I feel most films suffer in comparison - even the OT entries.
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Post by Anthony on Jan 16, 2021 23:17:13 GMT
1- Revenge of the Sith 2- Attack of the Clones 3- The Phantom Menace
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Post by Somny on Jan 16, 2021 23:51:56 GMT
Some have said my list is upside-down. 1. Attack of the Clones 2. The Phantom Menace 3. Return of the Jedi 4. Revenge of the Sith 5. A New Hope 6. The Empire Strikes Back ROTJ has risen in my estimation over the past few years because it took me a while to appreciate how beautifully bonkers it all is compared to the rest of the OT. And AOTC has had the top spot for me since its DVD release. I was hoping ROTS would have unseated it but AOTC has some extravagant choices that, for me, weren't topped by the succeeding film.
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