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Post by stampidhd280pro on Apr 23, 2024 18:40:46 GMT
In one of the prequel era making-of documentaries, it was at least suggested that George Lucas had specifically requested that no clone trooper costumes be made, and would be fully animated. The man on screen added "I don't know why..."
Well, I have my own theories, aside from Lucas's respect for the budget, but I want to open the discussion to you fine folks here.
Why?
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Post by jppiper on Apr 23, 2024 18:45:01 GMT
stampidhd280pro So they would all be the same size i assume naturally, fans bitched about it and they made suits for the obi-wan and ahsoka series.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Apr 23, 2024 20:38:49 GMT
stampidhd280pro So they would all be the same size i assume naturally, fans bitched about it and they made suits for the obi-wan and ahsoka series. Why would they need to all be the same size? |
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Post by jppiper on Apr 23, 2024 21:19:50 GMT
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Post by Ingram on Apr 23, 2024 22:03:55 GMT
Aesthetics.
Such exactitude of digital multiplicity artifice was back in 2002 still something of both novelty and a bold stylistic statement, yet therein on-point as a storied theme: you don' t simply show audiences the Clones, you make them feel it with a sense of the uncanny, that some new impersonal manner of pixelated uniformity is emerging from the Senate onto a naive Republic. An autonomous army of non-droids, non-automatons, nonetheless cloned and bred and trained autonomously.
Monotony vs. Autonomy. The Stormtroopers of the OT were a monotonous army of otherwise human individuals long since cultivated into an Imperial-Industrial-Complex and thus carrying on like THX-minded infrastructural pawns—glorified minimum wage security guards. By comparison the Clones SHOULDN'T feel right in the way many fans complained. They're not supposed to. They're supposed to be...off. Sleeker and mono-voiced, rendered abstractly by "software".
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Post by Somny on Apr 23, 2024 23:51:26 GMT
Aesthetics.
Such exactitude of digital multiplicity artifice was back in 2002 still something of both novelty and a bold stylistic statement, yet therein on-point as a storied theme: you don' t simply show audiences the Clones, you make them feel it with a sense of the uncanny, that some new impersonal manner of pixelated uniformity is emerging from the Senate onto a naive Republic. An autonomous army of non-droids, non-automatons, nonetheless cloned and bred and trained autonomously.
Monotony vs. Autonomy. The Stormtroopers of the OT were a monotonous army of otherwise human individuals long since cultivated into an Imperial-Industrial-Complex and thus carrying on like THX-minded infrastructural pawns—glorified minimum wage security guards. By comparison the Clones SHOULDN'T feel right in the way many fans complained. They're not supposed to. They're supposed to be...off. Sleeker and mono-voiced, rendered abstractly by "software". For a long-o time, I've felt there was a sharp metaphorical reason for the choice fairly in-sync with what Ingram describes here so astutely. The celebration at the end of TPM is similar in evocation to my mind. Rows of similarly attired organic creatures (members of the Gungan " grand army", no doubt), more eerily uniform in movement than assumedly individualized, marching to an up-tempo, varied-in-key, highly synthesized version of the Emperor's Theme while the Man with the Plan watches on quite contentedly. Definite resonance in terms of formal presentation with a certain narratively pivotal army to come. You gotta love the Lucasverse. |
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Post by Alexrd on Apr 24, 2024 10:09:35 GMT
In one of the prequel era making-of documentaries, it was at least suggested that George Lucas had specifically requested that no clone trooper costumes be made, and would be fully animated. The man on screen added "I don't know why..." Well, I have my own theories, aside from Lucas's respect for the budget, but I want to open the discussion to you fine folks here. Why? Because he knew they could do it. It's like a parent taking the training wheels off their kid's bicycle. EDIT: Also, Rob Coleman talks about it in the audio commentary. |
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Post by Subtext Mining on Apr 25, 2024 2:01:47 GMT
To stick it to the clone army of people who complained about the cgi?
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on Apr 25, 2024 6:57:41 GMT
I think it's so that they would all have the same type of movement and mannerisms. Guys in costumes would all have different personalities. That's one of the gripes I have with TCW, that they made the clones too independent and unique. In the films and the CW micro-series, they're more akin to organic droids. I get that they had to distinguish the individual clones more in the series, but I prefer the earlier characterization.
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