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Post by hernalt on Feb 10, 2024 21:59:56 GMT
I did a search and could see no comment on this film. Delete this if there is a link to the thread that discusses it.
>> What does the hole in the head of the AI mean? <<
- What are the AI missing that humans possess? - The film takes all pains to assert that the AI have as much heart, as much mind, as much religion, as much 'spirit' as humans - do AI lack for a 'soul'? - are the 'religious' AI following algorithms that never receive evidence of a something beyond
- a hole in the head is instantly othering, on a visceral level
- a hole in the head is a transparency to the clockwork of thought? - are AI an open book that cannot lie?
- like a window over the heart
This exists related to : - Historical U.S. actions in Vietnam/Southeast Asia during a bipolar epoch - The U.S. was not hunting down the 'creator' of communism
- Historical U.S. actions in Iraq/Afghanistan/Middle East during a unipolar epoch - The U.S. was hunting down the 'creator' of Al-Qaeda - I don't smell oil in Creator
The collision of these two word clouds precipitates some pretty acidic implications, for me. But I'm well aware there may be some detail that unlocks a different take.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Feb 11, 2024 13:07:48 GMT
I haven't seen the movie, but sadly far too many people want to see the monster of Frankenstein as somehow human, and not for what it is, an abomination. Thankfully this will never come to pass, as materialism is a stupid metaphysical concept anyway. The idea that the mind is reducible to matter, and that the brain is merely a machine made out of meat is frankly bonkers.
To quote GL: Part of the fun of Threepio is he has no soul. He is programmed to think a particular way and be compassionate, but he doesn’t really know what that means. And sometimes he gets frustrated and sometimes he has very human-like qualities, but they don’t have a central place where he can think independently. Darth Vader, on the other hand, as he becomes more mechanical, he loses more and more of his ability to even think like a human.”
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Post by hernalt on Feb 11, 2024 22:03:28 GMT
Huh. The AIs' hole in the head across the ears is an approximate negative of the Frankenstein monster's bolts on each side of the neck.
And now that you mention Frankenstein... the Creator of this piece is ultimately found prone on a table, ostensibly dead, and is revived by the 'electrical' stimulus of.. (I frankly forget, and would not want to spoil anyway).
There is one shock scene in this film, related to reducibility, worth not spoiling, that will give new meaning to flash drive.
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Post by tonyg on Feb 14, 2024 11:20:35 GMT
I have big doubts about this movie and still didn't watch it. The encounter between human and AI is a challenging thing and I'm afraid most contemporary movies fail to show something significant paradoxically not because the depiction of AI is unrealistic but because the depiction of humans is paper thin. I spoke into from club thread about Ex-Machina which I think fails in both aspects. So, while I liked Rogue one, I'm not sure I would like this movie of Edwards, from what I saw from the trailers.
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Post by hernalt on Feb 15, 2024 2:48:14 GMT
The film is about imperialism. It has a thin skin of AI. The skin has a small handful of interesting patterns.
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