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Post by jppiper on May 18, 2023 1:14:00 GMT
smittysgelatoSorry for the caps it's frustrating that people think there were plotholes between ROTS & ANH when they're aren't any
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 9, 2023 0:27:41 GMT
A trailer for the "Patterson Cut": the Obi-Wan series as a movie.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 10, 2023 1:28:15 GMT
Our boy looking sharp for Variety magazine's "actors on actors"
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Post by smittysgelato on Jun 10, 2023 4:54:51 GMT
What a hell of a pairing. I will be watching that for sure.
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Post by Somny on Jun 10, 2023 16:28:16 GMT
Uh. I couldn't get more than 10 minutes into it. Let's just say Hayden is extremely tolerant.  For those brave enough to handle such high levels of... Luna, please let us all know if Hayden drops any amazing insight into his collaboration with Lucas in the latter part of the talk (along with the relevant time stamps). |
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Post by smittysgelato on Jun 10, 2023 18:53:01 GMT
From what I remember of watching it last night, Hayden mostly reiterates much of what he has said before about working on the Prequels.
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Post by Samnz on Jun 11, 2023 9:12:38 GMT
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jun 14, 2023 16:48:58 GMT
Let's just say Hayden is extremely tolerant.
Aren't actors well known for showering praise upon each other? You notice this especially during the promotion tours, where it may well be drilled into them by the film studio or distributor.
It's only years later that the actor will start digging in, revealing their actual feelings, as we saw from MacGregor post PT. But hey, a few further years and they might mellow, which we see more recently.
Christensen wouldn't be known for being the most technical actor, like a Day-Lewis or a Heath Ledger. He's someone who took to acting in his early childhood, which can be a good thing - a head start - for some, and a vice - something they never had a hand in choosing - for others. It's hardly a surprise then that there's been times where he's fallen out of love with acting, like he wasn't earning it.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 17, 2023 13:49:43 GMT
BTS of the Vader-Obi-Wan fight
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Post by jppiper on Aug 19, 2023 1:24:47 GMT
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 19, 2023 17:19:31 GMT
Somebody in of the big US film publications finally admitting what happened. I like that. They'd want to challenge them on "recapturing" nonsense though.
They weren't lying here. There was no plans for a second season when they made it. In that regard, you would question whether a film would have been better. But then again, people would have asked for a sequel to that too...
The main shame is that they never gave the series the same funding that Andor did. They did not go out all guns blazing, and they picked a rather dull set of writers, who were overly concerned about unnecessary side characters like Reva.
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Post by jppiper on Aug 19, 2023 20:07:19 GMT
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 20, 2023 20:43:14 GMT
It wasn't that bad, Joe. There's nothing wrong with small tweaks, don't forget that Lucas did it with the birth of the twins in Episode III.
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Post by jppiper on Aug 20, 2023 21:04:41 GMT
ArchdukeOfNabooI'm sorry but Obi-Wan leaving tatooine meeting leia (which was done to explain why she named her son after him) and facing Vader all broke continuity and what did lucas do with the birth of the twins? sorry for the mini-rant
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 20, 2023 23:54:23 GMT
ArchdukeOfNaboo I'm sorry but Obi-Wan leaving tatooine meeting leia (which was done to explain why she named her son after him) and facing Vader all broke continuity and what did lucas do with the birth of the twins? sorry for the mini-rant
It was all peanuts compared to what was done in the ST. They'd be telegraphing a Obi-Wan-Vader rematch ever since the show got the green light, that shouldn't have surprised you. We all expected that Obi-Wan would need to leave Tatooine in order to get a story going.
George changed the birth of the twins so it would happen just before Padmé's death. Many fans complained that this contradicted how Leia spoke of her mother in Episode VI, that she had some memory of her from childhood. I think George did do a retcon, but it was in good taste. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Sept 12, 2023 17:21:39 GMT
I've said in the Ahsoka thread and I've yet to say it here: the "inquisitors" are cheap, contrived characters, with silly, de-personalised uniforms and cartoonish, stilted forms of behaviour. They have none of that presence that we now see of Stevenson's Baylin in the newer series. His villain is mysterious, individualistic, charming, physical and does not make you cringe every time he speaks.
On reflection I find that my biggest problem with the show was these villains. The insistence on dragging out the bad guys of a mediocre animated series called Rebels, and translating them into live action, was a gamble that didn't pay off. If Vader wasn't enough of a villain, they should have just worked with the old reliable imperial officers, or imperials as they're often called.
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Post by smittysgelato on Sept 12, 2023 18:42:35 GMT
I've said in the Ahsoka thread and I've yet to say it here: the "inquisitors" are cheap, contrived characters, with silly, de-personalised uniforms and cartoonish, stilted forms of behaviour. They have none of that presence that we now see of Stevenson's Baylin in the newer series. His villain is mysterious, individualistic, charming, physical and does not make you cringe every time he speaks.
On reflection I find that my biggest problem with the show was these villains. The insistence on dragging out the bad guys of a mediocre animated series called Rebels, and translating them into live action, was a gamble that didn't pay off. If Vader wasn't enough of a villain, they should have just worked with the old reliable imperial officers, or imperials as they're often called.
Or give Vader an apprentice or bust out some bounty hunters. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Sept 12, 2023 19:50:54 GMT
I've said in the Ahsoka thread and I've yet to say it here: the "inquisitors" are cheap, contrived characters, with silly, de-personalised uniforms and cartoonish, stilted forms of behaviour. They have none of that presence that we now see of Stevenson's Baylin in the newer series. His villain is mysterious, individualistic, charming, physical and does not make you cringe every time he speaks.
On reflection I find that my biggest problem with the show was these villains. The insistence on dragging out the bad guys of a mediocre animated series called Rebels, and translating them into live action, was a gamble that didn't pay off. If Vader wasn't enough of a villain, they should have just worked with the old reliable imperial officers, or imperials as they're often called.
Or give Vader an apprentice or bust out some bounty hunters.
Yeah, that could have been better. However, such an apprentice would surely have been given the same amount of focus as Reva had, so we'd still end up with fans bitching.
Ultimately, as things often are in life, it's a Catch-22:
A) You go with Vader, and feature him very prominently and you're accused of watering him down or, God forbid, making him weak (emasculating him) B) You have other villains besides Vader, with the intent of letting them fill in for his absences, and you're accused of spending too much time on inconsequential characters.
A lot of fans cheered at the idea of a re-match between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi. The people wagging their finger, with a "breaks canon" message, were very quiet, they did not raise there heads enough. Now some of the former have cynically decided their were actually in the ladder camp. The fandom is a farce, you can't please these people.
I enjoyed Obi-Wan Kenobi for what it was. Sure, the director and writers had average written all over them, and I'm now convinced Filoni would have done way better, but it could have been a hell of a lot worse, as the three Sequels all were. Christsensen and McGregor had a lovely reunion, had a great time making it, I'm grateful that if the show has served any purpose, it has served as a platform for the PT generation to express their appreciation for what they achieved.
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Post by smittysgelato on Sept 12, 2023 23:20:03 GMT
We live in an era where everything sucks. Even things that don't suck still suck. I wonder if people have their own opinions anymore or if they just download their opinions directly from their favourite Youtubers.
Agreed.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Sept 13, 2023 1:10:46 GMT
We live in an era where everything sucks. Even things that don't suck still suck. I wonder if people have their own opinions anymore or if they just download their opinions directly from their favourite Youtubers.
I think it tends to be a case now that a film or TV series can be either be the best thing ever, or the biggest load of garbage that threatens the financial wellbeing of a studio. The YouTubers - as much as they can be very entertaining - aren't skilled at dealing in shades of grey.
Video gaming (when I once followed that) also had a screwed up scoring system, where 8 could mean average. IGN was particularly keen on this nonsense, but you found it in the gaming magazines too, so it predated the self-entitled YouTuber era.
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