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Post by Subtext Mining on Jul 23, 2023 17:03:10 GMT
I'm in theatre waiting for Oppenheimer and they're playing Across The Stars.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Jul 23, 2023 17:34:42 GMT
I'm in theatre waiting for Oppenheimer and they're playing Across The Stars. these movies will stand the test of time. |
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Post by Somny on Jul 23, 2023 22:48:21 GMT
Fusion.
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Post by Subtext Mining on Jul 24, 2023 0:15:27 GMT
I'm in theatre waiting for Oppenheimer and they're playing Across The Stars. these movies will stand the test of time. By the way, I asked my friends if they knew what the song was from, and nobody knew for sure, but one (who I just recently met) said, "Star Wars, Episode... III?" And we started talking briefly about the Prequels and before I said much she was like, "I think they're actually pretty good." |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Jul 24, 2023 15:53:54 GMT
I'm in theatre waiting for Oppenheimer and they're playing Across The Stars.
As in the music they might play before the trailers roll on, or something in the lobby when you buy tickets/snacks? Either way, that's pretty cool.
Great film, by the way. I went last Friday, the opening night, and it was a joy to see to witness the cinema so buzzing. It brought back fond memories from childhood.
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Post by smittysgelato on Jul 25, 2023 3:53:27 GMT
I just got back from my trip, during which I managed to see a screening of Oppenheimer.
Minor spoilers below.
It was, in one respect, an exercise in making talking feel cinematic, which I think they managed to succeed at for the most part. It is part biopic, part thriller, part who dun it? Thematically it shares some ideas in common with both The Imitation Game and Dune. For example, Oppenheimer gets used by his country much like Turing was used by his, and then discarded after the fact. In terms of its similarity to Dune, Oppenheimer, like Paul Atreides, is riding a wave he cannot fully steer or control, leading to dire consequences. It is very post-modern in that regard. My sister and I agreed that the filmmakers did a great job with the conversation between Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer, which is initially withheld from the audience, then revealed later in the movie.
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Post by Subtext Mining on Jul 25, 2023 9:04:12 GMT
My first thought was, huh, well, there it is. But upon reflecting, there's some interesting aspects and some snappy one-liners. But way too fast-paced-montage for me. I was hoping Nolan wasn't going to go that biopic route, like Bohemian Rhapsody, but alas. And for three hours! I still have a headache. I've been fascinated with J. R. Oppenheimer for about 15 years, and never imagined there would be a movie about him. Let alone a big-budget epic, let alone by Nolan. So this was a nerdy experience for me. Overall it's interesting and made by a great filmmaker, but if you're not in a hurry to see it, wait for Dvd so you can pause it for bathroom breaks and brain breaks, it's an unrelenting brow-beater. And each scene is so short, even if it feels bathroom break-y, you know you'll miss about four scenes by the time you get back. One SW parallel of course was the whole, "If we do this, it will make the other side feel threatened, but if we don't they might be preparing to do it to us." Definitely lots of intriguing conundrums. More thoughts on Awesome-heimer later. (Good ones, I promise). I'm in theatre waiting for Oppenheimer and they're playing Across The Stars. As in the music they might play before the trailers roll on, or something in the lobby when you buy tickets/snacks? Either way, that's pretty cool. Sitting in the theatre before the previews. I was going to edit my post to be more specific, but Stamp had replied by then  |
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Post by smittysgelato on Jul 25, 2023 16:51:13 GMT
The movie really does capture the cognitive dissonance of the whole situation surrounding the creation of nuclear weapons. Normally in a biopic, the whole thing leads up to a very inspiring climax where the character succeeds and overcomes the odds. Here, Oppenheimer technically succeeds, but in the moments leading up to that success, as an audience member, you just feel sick with dread and are internally screaming: "NOOOO! NOOOO!"
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Post by smittysgelato on Jul 25, 2023 19:06:59 GMT
You just summed up politics in one sentence.
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Post by Somny on Jul 25, 2023 23:30:08 GMT
More fusion:  |
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Post by Darkslayer on Jul 26, 2023 1:46:28 GMT
More fusion: Would love to hear the conversation occurring in that photo! |
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Post by Subtext Mining on Jul 27, 2023 9:48:52 GMT
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Jul 28, 2023 12:47:56 GMT
That’s a great quote
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Post by Subtext Mining on Jul 28, 2023 20:37:00 GMT
Yeah, the movie definitely captured the feel of an impending sense of doom, and "oh god, what are we unleashing?". And I also thought the depiction of trauma and dread was done very effectively and interestingly. Overall I thought the message and themes were great and woven together in a very intriguing and captivating way. The visuals, metaphoric and otherwise were all masterfully done. The film looks amazing, the acting was top notch, lots of poignant symbolism, almost everything was done very tastefully. I just feel like nothing gets a chance to breathe or sink in. And yeah, maybe that's the point. There were some really nice moments with dialogue that started budding into greatness, that had a potential for a more classic narrative gravitas and that warranted more time and dedication, that I think got truncated and wedged into the breakneck paced assembly line of the rest of the montage reel. I feel everything is packaged in a series of brief snippet scenes, one after the other. And the constant stream of intense music was very distracting. But again, that's probably the point. If I may quote Jay from RLM, "It's like a three-hour panic attack." And I agree. Note: Jay totally loved the movie - but there's no escaping that fact  And I get it, I do. I just think, again, like Jay, that there should've been some variation in the tempo and intensity, at least in the beginning. The whole movie is cranked to 11 from start to finish and I feel it suffers a bit because of it. I mentioned Bohemian Rhapsody before. That was the first time I'd seen a movie made in this style and I had to stop it after about 30 minutes, I just couldn't take it, maybe I'm old but this style of wall to wall montage film just isn't for me. I'm just trying to figure out if Nolan went that route because he genuinely wanted to, or he wanted to make a film about the Bomb but knew it wouldn't make its money back unless it appealed to the younger audiences. Or both. Anyways, I do like the film, it was made very well. I would watch it again for sure. But I would like to see it with maybe less music or something. (Something else Jay also said). |
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Post by smittysgelato on Jul 28, 2023 20:46:51 GMT
We live in an age of anxiety and Oppenheimer and many other recent movies/tv shows are made in an intense, anxiety-ridden style. It definitely doesn't set it itself apart from the pack in that sense. This is why my absolute favorites of late tend to be more mellow.
For example, I was watching a Japanese TV series titled, "The Makinai: Cooking for the Maiko House" on Netflix. It is the perfect, feel-good antidote to the kind of anxiety on display in Oppenheimer.
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Jul 29, 2023 23:33:43 GMT
What a great movie, and I wouldn’t consider myself a Nolan fan
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Post by smittysgelato on Jul 29, 2023 23:35:29 GMT
Even though Oppenheimer shares the current trend of having a very anxious atmosphere, there is something about it that feels more substantial than most of the movies we see in the theatre these days.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 4, 2023 12:51:35 GMT
Wow, Nolan is letting out a bit of steam there, and I like it. While we must be careful not to fool ourselves into thinking Nolan is the second coming of Lucas (there are differences, folks), it is nonetheless obvious that the two gentlemen share the same soft-spokenness, the same polite and courteous demeanour. They are not ouright extroverts like Tarantino, who can stay talking all day and night, nor overly sarcastic and witty like the actors who appear on the late night shows, rather they are humble filmmakers who prefer to let their images do the talking.
I might also that Nolan has the same resolute, I shall not kowtow to any studio attitude that the Maker had. You may have read about his ditching of Warner Bros, after their dual release shenanigans during the first year of the pandemic. Oppenheimer was financed by Universal.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Aug 4, 2023 13:32:05 GMT
I finally watched the noir classic The Third Man. Being a post-war film it makes a poignant follow up to Oppenheimer, and the questioning of mankind's value. I wouldn't agree that Oppenheimer is a film that challenges the value of man or human civilisation. I think it is instead a piece of art that dwells on the contradictions and the consequences of the progression of technology. And the sheer toll that can place on one individual. Nolan is neither a preacher, nor a political activist, he is an artist who paints a picture of humanity in all its muddled and disoriented complexities. You can hear in interviews his grim feelings about polemical, agenda-pushing films, which leave no room for nuance.
How many of us have accidentality hit a fox or rabbit while driving at night only to feel guilty for a time afterwards? Plenty of us, I'm sure. Imagine then being the creator of the nuclear bomb. It's not a position I envy Oppenheimer of, nor one that I think we can ever possibly hope to understand the mental repercussions such a scientist would have faced. Indeed, Oppenheimer and the Manhattan project opened a Pandora's Box, whose effects we live with today. "We still live in an era unleashed by that new weapon" to paraphrase the director.
Who here also loved the Oval Office scene? That was a raw, unsparing portrayal of Truman. The cold, ungrateful, discarding attitude that is shown toward Oppenheimer is straight from the historical record.
The sex scene was unexpected and a bit weird. I'm not sure if that was of any value, though I'm happy to hear everyone else's perspective.
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 4, 2023 20:03:20 GMT
Indeed. We all know how he feels about digital technology. For me, a part of the visual richness of the Prequels is witnessing all of that new technology in its nascent stage, which lends the visuals a pioneering charm. I doubt he'd appreciate the visual aspects of the Prequels quite the way we do here at Naberrie Fields.
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