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Post by eljedicolombiano on Oct 31, 2022 20:37:27 GMT
They didn’t have to bring Palpatine back - that just shows the utter failure of the imagination on the part of JJ Bringing Palpatine back was wholly appropriate. The Dark Empire comic had it right. What, you wanted another fucking Snoke? Ummm… They could have gone for a Force Wielder, a character akin to the Mortis gods. Maybe someone who was an ancient enemy of the Jedi and had gone into a deep slumber and is woken up after the events of ROTJ take place, when the Force is brought back into balance. Someone more powerful than the Emperor, who was after control of the Force itself. Doesn’t sound like Snoke to me And I hate to be that guy, but I never liked Dark Empire |
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Post by smittysgelato on Oct 31, 2022 21:32:04 GMT
An intriguing idea, my good sir.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Oct 31, 2022 21:57:17 GMT
Your Snoke theory sucks
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 31, 2022 23:59:38 GMT
Get Snoke, go broke.
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 1, 2022 0:04:05 GMT
The funny thing about "get woke, go broke" is that the Frozen movies are woke af, but they made shit tons of money. So, I roll my eyes when I see that phrase because it isn't always true. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 1, 2022 0:17:39 GMT
The funny thing about "get woke, go broke" is that the Frozen movies are woke af, but they made shit tons of money. So, I roll my eyes when I see that phrase because it isn't always true. The Snokequel Trilogy made quite a bit, too. |
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Nov 1, 2022 1:43:26 GMT
Politics are evil. "Poly+ticks = Many blood-sucking parasites." I'm over all of it. Religion is sick too. Just love yourself and love others. Little Hitlers everywhere. So much hate. Oh wait, wrong forum.
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Post by maychild on Nov 1, 2022 2:26:05 GMT
I like that Disney kicked the puke in book form known as the Expanded Universe to the curb. And I like "Rogue One." The Obi Wan Kenobi series started out well but distinctly fizzled out about halfway through. The ST has some good moments and is enjoyable, but not much more than that.
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Post by Ingram on Nov 1, 2022 4:18:01 GMT
So, this is to be, what, a 10-year review since the Disney-era conception? Alright. - JJ Abrams was and remains a boring commercialist while Rian Johnson was an indie-art confectioner altogether in over his head—the ST in a nutshell. Done. It means nothing to me. - Rogue One and Solo are finitely good standalones, maybe even honorable, but nothing more. - All of the streaming series thus far have lived up to their general classification: content ranging from handsome to neutral to schlock steadily passing by down the creek, out of sight and out of any lasting impressionable memory. (note: I haven't been keeping up with animated shows)- All of the corporate rhetoric and astroturfing has been entirely unsurprising. - Exec management has proven quick on the trigger declaring future productions yet lousy following through with integrity to any particular vision or individual filmmaker(s). - Fandom has never been more mainstream; detached, accessorized, normalized at length, complacent, trivial. Conclusion: 
Pending: Indy 5
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 1, 2022 4:29:29 GMT
The brilliant thing about that gif is that it loops, so that after George enters the building, he just pops up again on screen left. George never REALLY goes away. He is always there haunting the whole affair.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Nov 1, 2022 4:43:14 GMT
They didn’t have to bring Palpatine back - that just shows the utter failure of the imagination on the part of JJ Bringing Palpatine back was wholly appropriate. The Dark Empire comic had it right. What, you wanted another fucking Snoke?
It was like applying a dodgy, unapproved painkiller on the patient. The side effects only hastened their demise. Should have let them die with some dignity.
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Post by Ingram on Nov 1, 2022 5:57:28 GMT
The brilliant thing about that gif is that it loops, so that after George enters the building, he just pops up again on screen left. George never REALLY goes away. He is always there haunting the whole affair. Legend has it that he continues to enter that hotel to this day, as we speak. he never checks out
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Post by Cryogenic on Nov 1, 2022 6:42:22 GMT
The brilliant thing about that gif is that it loops, so that after George enters the building, he just pops up again on screen left. George never REALLY goes away. He is always there haunting the whole affair. Legend has it that he continues to enter that hotel to this day, as we speak. he never checks out
It's amusing how he's intrigued by the camera for a second and can't help staring into the lens. Then his hand gesture when pushing open the door at the close of the clip. I like to imagine this random documentary crew, recording a talk by Bruce Hoglund about nuclear power, thorium, and molten salt reactors, inadvertently captured Lucas using the Force on a hapless bank employee; but with just enough plausible deniability -- the ultimate example of cinéma vérité. |
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Nov 1, 2022 15:24:55 GMT
For a Saga that is one sense all about families and dynasties, it is a surprise then that Lucas didn't pass down ownership to his children. Can anybody explain to me why this didn't happen? Were they simply not the filmmaking-business types? Could we not have seen a "Lucas estate" analogous to the Tolkien estate?
Another question for you all: if no more films were made, could Star Wars still remain popular? Do we need to make films and TV programmes forever to keep the flame alive? Does it even need to always be wildly popular? Why does this fiction have to be constantly updated and modernised, can it not stand on its own two feet? Can we ever be content like we are with all the works of Shakespeare and Hitchcock? Ask not how the text can adapt to you, ask how you can adapt to the text.
Perhaps when Star Wars learns to let go of its fixation with pop culture, it will truly ascent to immortality - to art.
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Post by jppiper on Nov 1, 2022 17:11:51 GMT
ArchdukeOfNabooMaybe they didn't want the responsibility of running a company
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 1, 2022 19:14:08 GMT
And this right here is why he is THE Archduke.
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Post by Ingram on Nov 1, 2022 19:33:54 GMT
For a Saga that is one sense all about families and dynasties, it is a surprise then that Lucas didn't pass down ownership to his children. Can anybody explain to me why this didn't happen? Were they simply not the filmmaking-business types? Could we not have seen a "Lucas estate" analogous to the Tolkien estate?
Another question for you all: if no more films were made, could Star Wars still remain popular? Do we need to make films and TV programmes forever to keep the flame alive? Does it even need to always be wildly popular? Why does this fiction have to be constantly updated and modernised, can it not stand on its own two feet? Can we ever be content like we are with all the works of Shakespeare and Hitchcock? Ask not how the text can adapt to you, ask how you can adapt to the text.
Perhaps when Star Wars learns to let go of its fixation with pop culture, it will truly ascent to immortality - to art.
Perhaps the real discussion then should concern not 2022 but 2072.
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 1, 2022 19:47:06 GMT
For a Saga that is one sense all about families and dynasties, it is a surprise then that Lucas didn't pass down ownership to his children. Can anybody explain to me why this didn't happen? Were they simply not the filmmaking-business types? Could we not have seen a "Lucas estate" analogous to the Tolkien estate?
Another question for you all: if no more films were made, could Star Wars still remain popular? Do we need to make films and TV programmes forever to keep the flame alive? Does it even need to always be wildly popular? Why does this fiction have to be constantly updated and modernised, can it not stand on its own two feet? Can we ever be content like we are with all the works of Shakespeare and Hitchcock? Ask not how the text can adapt to you, ask how you can adapt to the text.
Perhaps when Star Wars learns to let go of its fixation with pop culture, it will truly ascent to immortality - to art.
I do find myself wondering if ceasing production of new Star Wars stories would be a good idea or not. Does that count as a death to creativity? Are we boxing ourselves in by not allowing Star Wars to change and grow? Or is it that by making endless Star Wars we are boxing ourselves in? Would it be more creative to make new stories that are inspired by and learn from Star Wars? After all, Robert Jordan didn't dedicate his life to writing fanfiction sequels to The Lord of the Rings, instead he was inspired by The Lord of the Rings to create his own universe: The Wheel of Time. |
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Post by Samnz on Nov 2, 2022 7:19:50 GMT
Strange to know it's already been ten years since the sale...
I still remember the day of the sale. Not necessarily the moment I learnt of Disney's acquisition, but that it actually made the news and my sister even brought it up when I came home from university that day. After no more movies were planned and animation didn't really interest me, I felt Star Wars wasn't particularly relevant for the public anymore (which wasn't a bad thing for me). We still don't exactly know why George sold, but I think the uncertainly and the company apparantly losing money at that point played a part in it. For whatever reason, I never considered Star Wars not being owned by Lucas before his death, especially after it felt like Lucas was starting to set to company up for the future (without him by hiring Kathleen Kennedy). I remember even hoping there might be a better chance we'd get to see some of the long-promised Lucas-directed non Star Wars movies once he was partly "freed" of leading the company and managing the daily business as a consequence of Kennedy's appearance. That obviously didn't happen...
Concerning Disney's ownership: Well, my worst fears have been realized regard to the ST. I've never cared for any potential ST and I don't care for the one we got. I saw them once and that's it, they are not part of my head canon. They exist in an alternate universe. Apart from the ST, it went better than expected. I like some stuff they produced, but what really surpsied me in a good way is the kind of re-evaluation the PT got as soon as this. I didn't expect of any potential PT content getting released by Disney within a decade. What we actually got was as a kind of "highlightt" the return of Hayden Christensen to playing Anakin in an official Star Wars production. That's huge, it really is, and I am still surprised it happened.
In short, I'm quite content with how it all turned. It is what it is and I hope George is still happy with his decision. One thing I always wonder is what happened to Katie Lucas? She was starting to write episodes on TCW and I thought she could have turned into the "creative future" of the franchise while Kennedy was leading the business part. Maybe in an alternate reality...
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Post by Subtext Mining on Nov 2, 2022 11:47:39 GMT
Just my perennial reminder that the sale of SW to Disney was finalized on December 21st, 2012.
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