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Post by smittysgelato on Sept 10, 2022 18:28:55 GMT
Here is the trailer for the upcoming Disney+ series Tales of the Jedi. The exciting thing for Prequelists is that it will feature a young Count Dooku and Qui-Gon Jinn.
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Post by jppiper on Sept 10, 2022 19:14:50 GMT
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Sept 11, 2022 3:07:36 GMT
Looks interesting, though I have to say the Inquisitor guy has too cool of a design to be wasted on such a character- should have been used for a Sith Lord instead-
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Sept 12, 2022 13:31:52 GMT
Wow, they really are bouncing around in the timeline here. A middle aged Dooku all the way to the post-Republic era Inquisitor. It's like a Clone Wars anthology series.
For those of you who didn't listen to the Dooku: Jedi Lost audiobook, which came out a couple years back, you're in for a treat. The Dooku-Qui-Gon master-apprentice relationship is a fascinating one. It crops up via flashbacks in the Qui-Gon Obi-Wan book (Master and Apprentice) too.
As I said elsewhere, several moons ago, I don't want Padmé's funeral covered again. Let's focus on the character while she was alive. The real world will provide more than enough of a big royal funeral to keep people occupied, we don't need it in Star Wars.
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Post by Somny on Oct 26, 2022 13:34:47 GMT
So far, the first episode is solid. Minimal dialogue, simple plot, sharp writing and lush art direction. Definitely a tone poem in the esoteric SW tradition of tone poetry. Also, highly metaphorical (so smittysgelato will definitely dig it). If we have to tread through so much Disney/LFL filler, at least we can have this.
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on Oct 26, 2022 19:30:09 GMT
I wasn't very interested in yet another CGI animated Clone Wars era show, especially since Ahsoka isn't one of my favorite characters, but I've always been curious to learn more about Dooku as a Jedi. Of course this isn't from Lucas, but if it's well done, it may be worth something. I got some Tartakovsky Clone Wars vibes from the trailer and the fact that it's an anthology of short episodes. That and Dooku were the only draws for me, and I thought I wasn't going to watch it, but Somny's endorsement got me to check it out. Having watched the first episode, I'm hooked. The music is gorgeous and everything feels just right. This may be my favorite Star Wars from Filoni.
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Post by smittysgelato on Oct 28, 2022 5:10:29 GMT
So far, the first episode is solid. Minimal dialogue, simple plot, sharp writing and lush art direction. Definitely a tone poem in the esoteric SW tradition of tone poetry. Also, highly metaphorical (so smittysgelato will definitely dig it). If we have to tread through so much Disney/LFL filler, at least we can have this. I have yet to watch any of these yet, but now my interest increases. I was already sold when they threw some Dooku into the mix. One of my few complaints about Clone Wars is that there is not enough Dooku. Now speaking of metaphors... This is precisely why Baby Yoda is not just a cute face for selling merchandise. He's a metaphor. "The metaphor is the mask of God through which eternity is to be experienced." - Joseph Campbell Yeah, I've been rereading some Campbell the past few days.
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Post by Somny on Oct 28, 2022 8:03:50 GMT
I have yet to watch any of these yet, but now my interest increases. I was already sold when they threw some Dooku into the mix. One of my few complaints about Clone Wars is that there is not enough Dooku. Now speaking of metaphors... This is precisely why Baby Yoda is not just a cute face for selling merchandise. He's a metaphor. "The metaphor is the mask of God through which eternity is to be experienced." - Joseph Campbell Yeah, I've been rereading some Campbell the past few days. I think about Campbell often. In fact, I purchased my copy of The Hero With a Thousand Faces nearly twenty years ago and finally got around to reading it straight through for the first time this past month. I wrote a brief review of it which I thought you'd appreciate: WARNING! SPOILERS BELOW!!I found the rest of Tales of the Jedi as satisfactory as the first episode. I enjoyed seeing the consonance between Dooku's mastership and Qui-Gon's and Obi-Wan's, the added scenes to TPM's narrative, the tragedy in Yaddle's last stand, how Anakin's training regimen for Ahsoka set up one of the most impressive set pieces in the entire CW series and, lastly, revisiting ROTS Naboo from a new vantage point (like a lucid dream, really). In all, I found TOTJ a damn fine series and I'm sure there'll be more episodes in the future. It seems built with serial potential.
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Post by smittysgelato on Oct 28, 2022 19:22:50 GMT
The thing about looking back is that you may very well find new expressions or possibilities for the old ways in the present. Man is both a conservative and a progressive.
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Post by jppiper on Oct 28, 2022 20:24:12 GMT
smittysgelatoMinor Spoilers It seems that Dogs are now Canon to the Star Wars Universe
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Post by Somny on Oct 28, 2022 20:29:38 GMT
The thing about looking back is that you may very well find new expressions or possibilities for the old ways in the present. Man is both a conservative and a progressive. Well-stated and true. While so much ignorance and brutality also defines antiquity, I suppose my interest and sympathies lie primarily with the storytelling and mythmaking (i.e., a sort of cultural binding) traditions of the past. The book definitely scratched that itch for me. And I'm interested in following up my reading of The Hero With a Thousand Faces with another work by Campbell. Any suggestions? I defer to your scholastic wisdom and zeal on the subject, Mr. Gelato.
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Post by emperorferus on Oct 29, 2022 6:43:13 GMT
So far I am enjoying the series- the first episode was decent but not gripping, 2 and 3 are great writing and storytelling I believe. I enjoy how Dooku's gradual shift is being conveyed, while we see the mixed attitudes of Mace and young Qui-Gon. Also, the political undertones are to my agreement- I think that there is commentary to be found in the corruption of the two Senators that we see, especially the desecration of Senator Dagonet's planet, and the commentary on how long-standing elected officials gain more power at the expense of those they are meant to serve. Dooku's journey shows disillusionment in the Jedi's role as the Republic's guard- and while we know he will become corrupted himself, I think there is a lesson in what Episode 3 expresses in the Jedi being the protectors of the rich and powerful's assets.
I also notice that at the end of Episode 3, Dooku walking away from Mace seems to visually mirror Ahsoka departing the temple at the end of TCW Season 5 "The Wrong Jedi." While Mace is clearly characterized as pro-status quo and strictly adhering to the Jedi's supposed mandate.
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on Oct 29, 2022 17:27:28 GMT
I'm almost awestruck by how good this thing was. Probably the best Star Wars from Disney so far, and definitely the most Lucasian. I highly recommend this to everyone. The Dooku episodes went into my collection of essential Star Wars that I will revisit when I rewatch the saga. Episode 4 in particular was perfect. I especially liked the Blade Runner 2049-esque visuals and sound when Yaddle trails Dooku through Coruscant. Filoni also seemes to have incorpoated lessions learned from Lucas here, like a few mirrored moments, such as Dooku saying one of Qui-Gon's lines to him, and I couldn't help but notice how Ahsoka's job mirrored Obi-Wan's meat cutting job from Kenobi.
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Post by smittysgelato on Oct 30, 2022 3:58:20 GMT
I sat down with the intention of watching one of these tonight, but then I couldn't stop and binged the whole thing in one sitting.
Episode 4 is at least the best Star Wars since Clone Wars, if not ROTS. After it was over I had to just sit in silence for a moment and let it all sink in. There is only one suggestion I can make to improve that episode. Dooku should have lost his lightsaber during the duel, then do the thing with the door, then finish his opponent off with some Force Lightning.
That one moment where Yaddle emerges from the closed door was chef's kiss perfection. I think the message here was: you can box yourself in, Dooku, but the light is still out there.
Those Dooku episodes really were the best gifts a Prequel fan could ask for.
That bit where the Senator won't back down had me all giggles. I was like...Dude, you're messing with Proto-Anakin. Not a smart move! Proto-Anakin did not disappoint. I have such a soft spot for fallen Jedi xD
AND THE SOUND DESIGN. Like the moment at the tree. And as Seeker pointed out, when Yaddle was trailing Dooku!
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Nov 1, 2022 14:40:43 GMT
Must say, I really enjoyed the Dooku episodes- absolutely fantastic, though I kinda wish we would have seen him Gun down Sifo Dyas
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Post by jppiper on Nov 10, 2022 20:37:56 GMT
eljedicolombianoJust read comments on Saltier than Crait Whining about the Dooku stuff not liking how he lost his temper also complaining that he used force lighting in AOTC along with bashing the fight with Yoda saying it was widely ridiculed saying his fight with Yaddle was a ripoff of said scene along with with the complaints about Ahsoka
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Post by eljedicolombiano on Nov 12, 2022 3:57:13 GMT
well... what do you want me to say? Reddit is filled with people who live by complaining, as is Twitter
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Post by jppiper on Nov 12, 2022 6:00:02 GMT
well... what do you want me to say? Reddit is filled with people who live by complaining, as is Twitter I Mean Force Lighting is a Sith Ability (Which that Hack Abrams Screwed Up) it's not just a power for Palpatine.
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Post by smittysgelato on Nov 17, 2022 2:11:14 GMT
I rewatched episode 4 today. A detail I missed the first time around was some visual foreshadowing. When Yaddle and Dooku are done speaking to Qui-Gon, they go in opposite directions down the hallway. Yaddle's end of the corridor has a pool of light flooding into it while Dooku's does not.
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Post by emperorferus on Apr 14, 2023 5:30:26 GMT
I think the one piece of news I can definitely say interests me is Season 2 of Tales of the Jedi. I was a fan of the first season, especially Dooku's episodes and the populist, anti-elite rhetoric of the first two, "Justice" and "Choices".
I would love to see young or Jedi Knight Qui-Gon take the spotlight on his own, maybe paired with a very young Obi-Wan or with another Jedi, but more in command than he was during his latest appearance. How would he have handled a situation like Raxus Secundus without Dooku's influence. It is notable that Dooku lost track of his original goal to erradicate the Senate's corruption long before he stopped preaching it, which we see in AOTC but less so the animated shorts. Qui-Gon's approach to the same problems would be interesting to see, seeing as he never looked to the dark side or allyship with the likes of Wat Tambor and Nute Gunray.
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