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Post by Ingram on May 3, 2022 10:33:53 GMT
Share some of your favorite trailer/promo/marketing of some of your favorite (or even just so-so) cinema. For example...
So the new JP movie is coming out this summer. The latest trailer: 35mm print scan
For the record, back in the day this genuinely felt like a Michael Crichton vision brought to life ...unlike every inferior-to-garbage sequel that followed.
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Post by smittysgelato on May 3, 2022 21:21:44 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on May 4, 2022 2:02:22 GMT
So the new JP movie is coming out this summer. The latest trailer:
35mm print scan
For the record, back in the day this genuinely felt like a Michael Crichton vision brought to life ...unlike every inferior-to-garbage sequel that followed. I think most people can agree that the original was much more faithful to Michael Crichton's novel (or wannabe screenplay manuscript) than " The Lost World". Still, I dig "The Lost World". For the record, I think it also had a pretty neat teaser trailer: Minimalistic, yet atmospheric. Of course, I'm a bit of a TMP -- "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" -- nut, so its minimalistic teaser from 1979 is also my bag. It's very 70s and plush and much more of a caress than any other Star Trek movie trailer I can think of. Most movie trailers in general, for that matter. Note the early THX sound effect and the voiceover by the legendary Orson Welles. Listen to how he speaks the name "Robert Wise" with some volume. LOL. The history between those two. It's another obvious one, but stepping into the new millennium here, I can't not mention the original theatrical trailer for "Lost In Translation". It puts the film across as more of your typical indie-hipster flick, but in its defence, the delicate, ephemeral nature of the film is hard to capture as is, least of all when you're the marketing people trying to sell such a wispy, gauzy movie to a broad audience -- an audience that, of course, hopefully loves Bill Murray and Japan: Anyway, that trailer always brings me a good amount of warmth and joy, because it reminds me that LIT exists. You may now consider your thread baptised. You're welcome. |
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Post by eljedicolombiano on May 4, 2022 2:49:31 GMT
I still remember seeing this in the theater- for my money, the greatest trailer ever
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Post by Ingram on May 4, 2022 6:57:30 GMT
I need to rewatch that movie. I've seen it only once and my memory of it and my memory of my impressions of it has faded. But since you mention pacing and, well, silence... one of the initial teasers (the second, I think) for Batman.
It's so abrupt, almost oddly. But I dig the torrential opening followed by a clip of the action music and then a scoreless track of clips edited together into a harsh montage that leads up to "My life is really...complex" and with a verse of the main theme boiling up. It was so unexpected at the time. It blew people's minds and kicked off the whole Batmania phenomenon. Of course, I'm a bit of a TMP -- "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" -- nut, so its minimalistic teaser from 1979 is also my bag. It's very 70s and plush and much more of a caress than any other Star Trek movie trailer I can think of. Most movie trailers in general, for that matter. Yes, at once arrhythmic and stilted yet gracefully somehow. It bespeaks of another time and another mindset concerning showmanship, how to hook an audience with simpler gestures. It also features little bits of one of my favorite yesteryear marketing concepts, that being promotional imagery. A more realized example:
Capture the imagination of your audience by lighting its very fuse.
I still remember seeing this in the theater- for my money, the greatest trailer ever I mean, given. Still, if I had to pick a fav for the trilogy, the teaser trailer for Episode I might rank 2nd only to it's theatrical trailer. I love that trailer/edge-of-the-90s/duration-of-my-filmgoing-existence. Between that trailer and the film's release, skies were the limit.
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Post by Cryogenic on May 4, 2022 14:32:35 GMT
I need to rewatch that movie. I've seen it only once and my memory of it and my memory of my impressions of it has faded. But since you mention pacing and, well, silence... one of the initial teasers (the second, I think) for Batman.
It's so abrupt, almost oddly. But I dig the torrential opening followed by a clip of the action music and then a scoreless track of clips edited together into a harsh montage that leads up to "My life is really...complex" and with a verse of the main theme boiling up. It was so unexpected at the time. It blew people's minds and kicked off the whole Batmania phenomenon. Totally non-controversial opinions: Micheal Keaton is still the best Bruce/Batman, Kim Basinger is the hottest Bat babe, and Jack Nicholson *is* The Joker. Oh, and this movie still fucking rocks. I mean, production design, lighting/cinematography, costuming, casting, scripting, music, and dark, satirical wit -- this movie has it all. Yeah, the Episode I trailers -- especially, in my opinion, the original teaser trailer that practically broke the Internet -- are still so mind-bogglingly good, and so rich in nostalgic, turn-of-the-millennium vibes, it practically goes without saying that they are the GOAT. A fantastic time to be young and wide-eyed with anticipation. And yes, the ROTS trailers are darn awesome, too. But there's nothing quite like starting out at, well: The Beginning. |
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on May 4, 2022 15:19:44 GMT
The biggest impact a trailer has ever had on me is probably the very first Man of Steel teaser. At the time, I wasn't as familiar with Superman except as cultural iconography. I wasn't sure what the teaser was about at first, but I was totally immersed in it by the music and Russell Crowe's voice over. It wasn't until the big red S came on screen that I realized it was Superman. Even the image of him flying was so different to the picture in my mind of Christopher Reeve flying with one arm extended that I didn't identify it as Superman. The tone of the trailer was so shockingly different and mythological down to the big redesigned S that I was totally transfixed by it.
Really I could probably post all the trailers for Zack Snyder's "trilogy" of DC movies because I think they're all that good. The movies themselves are sort of a guilty pleasure, but I do like them, especially Man of Steel.
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Post by smittysgelato on May 4, 2022 19:57:38 GMT
This should be a bumper sticker.
I also agree that Batman 89 is the best live-action Bat movie. (Mask of the Phantasm is the best Bat movie, period) I used to prefer The Dark Knight, but as I age realism just isn't as interesting to me. I will always love Nolan's films because they brought me back to the Batman, but that's where I am at at the moment.
Also, I wouldn't be a 90's kid if I didn't roll this one out:
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Post by eljedicolombiano on May 4, 2022 22:45:28 GMT
I'm too young to remember the TPM trailers in the theater- I was 4, and went to see the movie because my mom was excited. By the time the ROTS trailer came out I was 10, so I have the vivid memory of seeing the trailer in the theater
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Post by eljedicolombiano on May 4, 2022 22:49:14 GMT
I know Ingram will probably vomit seeing a Pirates movie, but I was quite excited for the third POTC. The movie was a downer, but I think in retrospect its more interesting than anything the MCU has done. I can't imagine the current Disney greenlighting some of the batshit crazy things that happen in this movie  |
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Post by smittysgelato on May 4, 2022 23:01:56 GMT
At World's End is an excellent fuck you to realism.  |
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Post by Cryogenic on May 5, 2022 0:26:02 GMT
I'm too young to remember the TPM trailers in the theater- I was 4, and went to see the movie because my mom was excited. By the time the ROTS trailer came out I was 10, so I have the vivid memory of seeing the trailer in the theater I never saw the trailer in the theater -- or, at least, I don't think I did. I definitely saw it for the first time on television; and, in fact, recorded it straight from that broadcast. I was 15 when the teaser came out, 16 when I saw TPM. Kind of an old, greying fart now. It's weird to think I'm now half-way between the ages of Ewan during principal photography on ROTS and Liam for principal photography on TPM. Time really does fly. |
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Post by Ingram on May 5, 2022 7:06:08 GMT
The biggest impact a trailer has ever had on me is probably the very first Man of Steel teaser. At the time, I wasn't as familiar with Superman except as cultural iconography. I wasn't sure what the teaser was about at first, but I was totally immersed in it by the music and Russell Crowe's voice over. It wasn't until the big red S came on screen that I realized it was Superman. Even the image of him flying was so different to the picture in my mind of Christopher Reeve flying with one arm extended that I didn't identify it as Superman. The tone of the trailer was so shockingly different and mythological down to the big redesigned S that I was totally transfixed by it. Really I could probably post all the trailers for Zack Snyder's "trilogy" of DC movies because I think they're all that good. The movies themselves are sort of a guilty pleasure, but I do like them, especially Man of Steel. Snyder puts it on front street. One can criticize, even mock, Man of Steel for its perpetual downcast and weighty pronouncements, but the trailer is nothing less than a sincere reflection of such. The marketing for Snyder's films have been consistent that way—what you see is what you get. Inversely, with JJ Abrams what you ultimately get only ever amounts to what you see in the trailer. Take Super 8 for example. Great trailer: Spielbergian period America, kids on bikes, secret government stuff, starry eyes looking up, a dreamy James Horner score cribbed from Cocoon. The actual movie? Just a longer version of said trailer, nothing more.
Or we can take exception with his previous 2009 Star Trek, which was afforded a downright outstanding teaser a whole year prior to the film's release. A teaser that suggested the heart of classic Trek as a spacefaring journey soaked in mystery and wonderment, only for the actual movie to turn out as something...else. I know Ingram will probably vomit seeing a Pirates movie, but I was quite excited for the third POTC. The movie was a downer, but I think in retrospect its more interesting than anything the MCU has done. I can't imagine the current Disney greenlighting some of the batshit crazy things that happen in this movie  It is the best of those first three films, I suppose. Had it been, say, 90 minutes instead of nearly 3 goddamn hours then it could've been a lot more tolerable as a surrealist lark.
All this talk of inflated post-2000 blockbusters is really killing my buzz. I'll show you sonsabitches some REAL movie trailers, both from my No. 1 Walter Hill pick.
The no-nonsense teaser:
Taste that? That's tequila-flavored Carolco, and the smell of cigars rolled on the thighs of hot young Mulatto women. And, yes, that was Jerry Goldsmith's Rambo: First Blood Part II you heard mixed in. It was Goldsmith who score this movie also!
Anyways, more no fucks given:
Trailer features one of my all-time favorite movie quotes and, subsequently, personal life motto: "The only thing that ever scared the hell outta me, Cash, was myself."
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Post by Subtext Mining on May 5, 2022 8:50:00 GMT
I agree Burton's Batman movies are the best. I actually think Batman Returns is the best because it's more Burton-y.
All the other directors go too far in one particular direction, but I feel Burton found the perfect balance of all of Batman films' potential aspects.
And unlike the first one, I saw Returns in the theater, so it holds a special place in my heart, personally.
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Post by Alexrd on May 5, 2022 10:32:58 GMT
I could never get into Tim Burton's Batman movies as a kid. I could never buy that claustrophobic, backlot feel the movies had; and it was overly theatrical in style. Everything felt fake. I know it might be comparing apples and oranges, but Donner's Superman was much more appealing and believable in comparison.
As for trailers, and speaking of Man of Steel, there was a Comic-Con teaser with the soundtrack of The Thin Red Line that completely sold me on the movie. Unfortunately they never released it online. This one comes close in greatness:
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Post by Cryogenic on May 5, 2022 23:31:18 GMT
The biggest impact a trailer has ever had on me is probably the very first Man of Steel teaser. At the time, I wasn't as familiar with Superman except as cultural iconography. I wasn't sure what the teaser was about at first, but I was totally immersed in it by the music and Russell Crowe's voice over. It wasn't until the big red S came on screen that I realized it was Superman. Even the image of him flying was so different to the picture in my mind of Christopher Reeve flying with one arm extended that I didn't identify it as Superman. The tone of the trailer was so shockingly different and mythological down to the big redesigned S that I was totally transfixed by it. Really I could probably post all the trailers for Zack Snyder's "trilogy" of DC movies because I think they're all that good. The movies themselves are sort of a guilty pleasure, but I do like them, especially Man of Steel. Snyder puts it on front street. One can criticize, even mock, Man of Steel for its perpetual downcast and weighty pronouncements, but the trailer is nothing less than a sincere reflection of such. The marketing for Snyder's films have been consistent that way—what you see is what you get. Yeah, I was transfixed by that trailer when it came out. I loved the big, beefy Nokia-sponsored one, too: And the film itself was surprisingly, well... arty. A giant arty lunkheaded Superman sci-fi action movie. If that isn't something of a contradiction in terms. "Krypton had its chance! Neeaaaarrrghhhh!" Okay, now I kinda want to watch it again. JJ basically makes trailers in movie form. It's kinda cool. Only when it isn't. JJ and Jalad at Tanagra JJ's light equipment flaring I was never taken in by that trailer. I knew the upcoming movie had to be a shitfest. I don't know why I find "Super 8" and "The Rise Of Skywalker" so superior to JJ's other efforts, but I do. All those damn POTC movies are way too long. I can't believe I went to see the first one, curious to see what all the fuss was about, only to be bored senseless. Not even a young Keira Knightley could save that turd. Worse: That movie cost me an impromptu date. Some girl from college accompanied me to the cinema (a rarity in Cryo's asexual world), but when we got there, the next showing was quite a way off. But I insisted we see POTC and only POTC. She left and never spoke to me again. I agree Burton's Batman movies are the best. I actually think Batman Returns is the best because it's more Burton-y. That's the general consensus. You can definitely see that when comparing the two. I could never get into Tim Burton's Batman movies as a kid. I could never buy that claustrophobic, backlot feel the movies had; and it was overly theatrical in style. Everything felt fake. I know it might be comparing apples and oranges, but Donner's Superman was much more appealing and believable in comparison. Oh, I was totally into Superman over Batman as a kid! Tim Burton's films were freakish and weird. Bizarre, if you will, for their own sake. As an adult, the claustrophobic, backlot feel is very obvious. It normally is. Ridley Scott did amazingly well with that on "Blade Runner". However, now that I'm older, I appreciate Burton's take a lot more. No-one will ever take my love of Dick Donner's first "Superman" away from me. It remains a magical experience and I love the extended ABC/Salkind cut, recently found and released on Blu-ray, which Donner despised. But after the bland, head-thumping pretentiousness of the Nolan films, Burton's take on Batman really shines. Also: The 4K remasters look really good. I even like the blue tint. |
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Post by Pyrogenic on May 5, 2022 23:54:31 GMT
Cryo has (repeatedly) heard me say this - oh, I don't know - a-couple-thousand-too-many-times...but I will go on record here on Naberrie Fields and claim yet again that this is the best trailer ever made, *AND* I will do so without any further explanation as to why:
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Post by Ingram on May 6, 2022 3:20:35 GMT
Cryo has (repeatedly) heard me say this - oh, I don't know - a-couple-thousand-too-many-times...but I will go on record here on Naberrie Fields and claim yet again that this is the best trailer ever made, *AND* I will do so without any further explanation as to why: Ahem... A hawk screeches in that trailer, twice—all opposing arguments are invalid.
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Post by smittysgelato on May 6, 2022 5:04:07 GMT
This trailer is a work of art all by itself. I'm def gonna watch this one when it is available.
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Post by Pyrogenic on May 6, 2022 11:43:39 GMT
Ingram, I’ll see your Hawk the Slayer trailer and raise you one…HOUSE! Currently on mobile, can’t embed video, but! youtu.be/WQ_Yo06kIIA |
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