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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 16, 2019 16:58:03 GMT
From a gameplay perspective, look at ALL the movies that have been released since the 1910s and how they are each a new set of pieces with their own range of power. I can’t help but feel the phantom menace of these new Star Wars entries being bashed and dismissed as aesthetically inferior to previous episodes being just like what happened to...all the previous episodes. Compare the ST to any non-SW movie and it starts to make sense that they’re not really deserving of most of the vitriol directed at them, besides them actually handling themselves in the defense department pretty well by my partially informed estimates, anyway. Unwarranted negativity, IMHO...and I agree that it’s like they aren’t being properly accessed nor even addressed for what THEY are.
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 16, 2019 17:52:30 GMT
From a gameplay perspective, look at ALL the movies that have been released since the 1910s and how they are each a new set of pieces with their own range of power. I can’t help but feel the phantom menace of these new Star Wars entries being bashed and dismissed as aesthetically inferior to previous episodes being just like what happened to...all the previous episodes. Compare the ST to any non-SW movie and it starts to make sense that they’re not really deserving of most of the vitriol directed at them, besides them actually handling themselves in the defense department pretty well by my partially informed estimates, anyway. Unwarranted negativity, IMHO...and I agree that it’s like they aren’t being properly accessed nor even addressed for what THEY are. Yeah. I don't disagree. To quote some words of Jordan Peterson, the modern/post-OT Star Wars movies (that's modern/post-OT, not postmodern!) have been roundly subjected, like perhaps no other works of popular cinema, to "the chattering buzz of ideologically possessed demons". And that wearying outcome suggests that there is something deeply wrong with our present reality. |
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Post by Alexrd on Oct 16, 2019 19:56:54 GMT
If Star Wars is one nine-part movie, is it justified in covering all the aesthetic bases it can? But it's not a nine-part movie. It can't be when a third of it is deliberately discarded and replaced by fan fiction. Fan fiction that repeats what's been done in such a careless and superfluous manner, while going directly against the organic and consistent themes and characterizations that defined the first six parts. Speaking of aesthetic bases, we know what Lucas was planning to go for in regards to aesthetics for his sequel trilogy. Hint: it was different from the aesthetics of the prequels and the originals. It was Vietnam war, just like the prequels were WWI and the originals WWII. |
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 16, 2019 20:05:13 GMT
From a gameplay perspective, look at ALL the movies that have been released since the 1910s and how they are each a new set of pieces with their own range of power. I can’t help but feel the phantom menace of these new Star Wars entries being bashed and dismissed as aesthetically inferior to previous episodes being just like what happened to...all the previous episodes. Compare the ST to any non-SW movie and it starts to make sense that they’re not really deserving of most of the vitriol directed at them, besides them actually handling themselves in the defense department pretty well by my partially informed estimates, anyway. Unwarranted negativity, IMHO...and I agree that it’s like they aren’t being properly accessed nor even addressed for what THEY are. Yeah. I don't disagree. To quote some words of Jordan Peterson, the modern/post-OT Star Wars movies (that's modern/post-OT, not postmodern!) have been roundly subjected, like perhaps no other works of popular cinema, to "the chattering buzz of ideologically possessed demons". And that wearying outcome suggests that there is something deeply wrong with our present reality. "The land teems with the twittering of bitter ghosts, dead from war, sick or starved and fallen where they stood. A curse, you say? This world is a curse." - Jiko, Princess Mononoke |
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 16, 2019 21:18:25 GMT
If Star Wars is one nine-part movie, is it justified in covering all the aesthetic bases it can? But it's not a nine-part movie. It can't be when a third of it is deliberately discarded and replaced by fan fiction. Fan fiction that repeats what's been done in such a careless and superfluous manner, while going directly against the organic and consistent themes and characterizations that defined the first six parts. Speaking of aesthetic bases, we know what Lucas was planning to go for in regards to aesthetics for his sequel trilogy. Hint: it was different from the aesthetics of the prequels and the originals. It was Vietnam war, just like the prequels were WWI and the originals WWII. But isn't the Sequel Trilogy's diegesis also ABOUT a third of the macrocosm/microcosm being deliberately discarded and replaced by fan fiction? The Prequel Trilogy is George Lucas buying in. The Original Trilogy is George Lucas breaking even. The Sequel Trilogy is George Lucas selling out. |
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 17, 2019 10:26:24 GMT
But it's not a nine-part movie. It can't be when a third of it is deliberately discarded and replaced by fan fiction. Fan fiction that repeats what's been done in such a careless and superfluous manner, while going directly against the organic and consistent themes and characterizations that defined the first six parts. Speaking of aesthetic bases, we know what Lucas was planning to go for in regards to aesthetics for his sequel trilogy. Hint: it was different from the aesthetics of the prequels and the originals. It was Vietnam war, just like the prequels were WWI and the originals WWII. But isn't the Sequel Trilogy's diegesis also ABOUT a third of the macrocosm/microcosm being deliberately discarded and replaced by fan fiction? The Prequel Trilogy is George Lucas buying in. The Original Trilogy is George Lucas breaking even. The Sequel Trilogy is George Lucas selling out. PT = Anakin OT = Vader ST = Kylo Heh... "Post" ATTACHMENT OF THE STICKS But anyway, reifying/reformulating the above: PT = Lucas fully embodied OT = Compromised state ST = Bastard offspring Or maybe we can put it another way: PT = World OT = Cave ST = Grotto |
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 17, 2019 13:11:38 GMT
The First Order is fan fiction...
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 17, 2019 23:16:09 GMT
HAHAHA!
And Retro Order?
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 18, 2019 0:17:21 GMT
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Post by Subtext Mining on Oct 19, 2019 6:12:23 GMT
Seems kind of appropriate here, with all of them in one place.  |
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 19, 2019 6:59:36 GMT
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 20, 2019 18:36:22 GMT
In before the lock?  THE. FORCE. AWAKENS. This idea that the Sequel Trilogy is somehow profoundly conceptually deviant from the rest of George Lucas' legacy ought to be immediately put to rest, IMHO. We all gotta penetrate that force field, folks. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Force#Concept_and_development |
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 22, 2019 14:50:26 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 23, 2019 15:16:49 GMT
Wow. We must be thinking on parallel lines. I had the thought yesterday of taking the three coloured sequel movie "Star Wars" logos and syncing them to coloured events in each of the respective films.
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 23, 2019 16:59:30 GMT
Wow. We must be thinking on parallel lines. I had the thought yesterday of taking the three coloured sequel movie "Star Wars" logos and syncing them to coloured events in each of the respective films. Two pilots engaged in neural bridge... |
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 23, 2019 19:17:29 GMT
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Oct 25, 2019 16:07:42 GMT
Wow, this thread has really taken off. I don't have so much interest in the ethereal content, but when Cryogenic and I decided we would try to revitalise this place, this is precisely the level of engagement we wanted to see.
Bravo to all. And welcome to the forum, Pryogenic.
P.S. Pyrogenic, Cryogenic can't be any coincidence, right?
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 25, 2019 17:04:07 GMT
Thanks! Cryo and I go way back...since around 2006, if I’m not mistaken! Pyrogenic recopying...
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Post by Cryogenic on Oct 25, 2019 17:42:50 GMT
Thanks! Cryo and I go way back...since around 2006, if I’m not mistaken! Pyrogenic recopying... 2006, I think, yeah. Can't quite remember if it was IMDb or TFN where we first encountered each other. Or maybe it was the forest on Takodana. Pyrogenic, I take it you are also the account holder of "M-I-D-1E" on the Episode IX speculation thread? Which I guess is fine, as you make it obvious, but we do need a policy against potential sock puppets on this forum. Anybody who has been on our other hangout spot, Naboo News, will have seen this issue recently.
Not everyone uses sock accounts. You are misapplying one instance to another. Pyro took his name in honour of mine. He was originally called MisterVader. M-I-D-1E is also a different person. We're online friends bonded by our love of the prequels. |
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Post by Pyrogenic on Oct 31, 2019 15:52:18 GMT
Can't be any coincidence, right?
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