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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on May 23, 2021 17:16:02 GMT
How many of you here are invested in cryptocurrency?
If you've got any memorable stories of your experience, please do share with us. It can be positive or negative.
Disclaimer Invest only what you can afford to loose. Do not borrow money or engage in margin or derivatives for cryptocurrency trading. You risk ending up severely in the negative. I am not a financial advisor. None of what I say should be considered financial advice. Please seek the opinion of others.
Promotion of pump and dumps (aka sh$tcoins) is prohibited on this site. See ProBoards rules & regulations.
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Post by Moonshield on May 23, 2021 19:50:24 GMT
I worked in one blockchain project, but now the project is dead (it was destroyed by one very disgusting incompetent manager)
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on May 23, 2021 22:00:31 GMT
Ouch. That must not have been so nice. How long did you work on it for?
You didn't ever cross paths with Vitalik Buterin, did you? He's another famous Russian blockchain pioneer, for Etherium.
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Post by Cryogenic on May 24, 2021 1:21:56 GMT
I started at the end of March -- at the prompting of a close friend. He'd been doing it around four weeks and already had a significant profit from his investments. I bought several of the same high-performing coins, and what happens? They stalled and then I started registering a loss. Actually, two climbed for a while, but I held my nerve and didn't sell. Now they've traced back down and I'm barely breaking even. At the moment, the crypto market is in a slump, due to Bitcoin dumping (the Biden administration and Elon Musk are partly to blame), pulling many coins down with it (whatever Bitcoin does, the other currencies tend to follow). But that also presents a good opportunity to buy. I just bought some more crypto tonight, in fact. But smaller amounts than when I started. Hopefully, I'm learning! But the crypto market is rough and unpredictable. There's no guarantee you'll make anything -- you could, indeed, lose a substantial sum. Most people who invest in crypto actually lose money. But if you're smart, patient, and have some luck on your side, big gains are certainly attainable. Learn the tech though and do your research! I'm still very new to the scene and trying to build my knowledge. God, anyone who gets into crypto rapidly starts talking like a dickhead, don't they? Yep, I'm part of that cult now. The only thing that is stopping me becoming more immersed in the whole thing is my own apathy. I struggle to stick with something too long. But this time, I'm trying to force myself to keep going -- to walk through fire if necessary. The existing political/economic system only really works for the wealthy -- an inescapable fact more and more people are becoming aware of. Crypto is a small way of fighting back and trying to gain for yourself within an evolving (if chaotic and unstable) niche. Decentralised finance is the future. Hindsight may always be 20/20, but Bitcoin was only $1 in 2011, and a few weeks ago, it was at a new high of $63,000. So if you'd put $100 into Bitcoin ten years ago (not an earth-shattering sum), you'd have had $6,300,000 back in April -- enough to afford a luxurious home and stop working (in slave labour conditions) for life. Bitcoin may have lost half its value since then, but you'd still comfortably be a millionaire. And, of course, there are plenty of coins way, way, waaaay cheaper than Bitcoin -- some mere fractions of a dollar. Most won't go anywhere, but a few will make you a handsome profit in time. It's about picking the right ones and getting to grips with the rules of the game. Unfortunately (and fortunately), market conditions are changing, and now the US is threatening to regulate crypto even more. China is also very hostile to it (outwardly). Governments are getting scared. Scared of the little guy. As they always have been. Even though crypto has a dark side (criminal activities), and you don't get the "protection" that centralised finance provides, it's worth the risk (provided you don't throw every penny you have into it -- and even then, good luck to ya!). When you see the blatant financial crimes that the elites are able to get away with, like tax avoidance or intimidating their workforce from unionising, even during/after a pandemic, you realise the system could provide for everyone but there are many working to stop that happening. It's exciting because crypto is only growing -- and "business as usual", or aping the wisdom of the past, doesn't cut it anymore. To the moon, y'all!
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Post by Subtext Mining on May 24, 2021 2:21:36 GMT
I've been thinking about it. Any tips or tutorials would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Moonshield on May 24, 2021 4:20:42 GMT
Ouch. That must not have been so nice. How long did you work on it for?
You didn't ever cross paths with Vitalik Buterin, did you? He's another famous Russian blockchain pioneer, for Etherium. 2 months. I'm currently studying Golang, because Etherium is written in Golang, but I've never seen Buterin.
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Post by Ingram on May 24, 2021 10:55:35 GMT
My nickname in high school was Satoshi. Totally random unrelated fact.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on May 25, 2021 3:41:16 GMT
God, anyone who gets into crypto rapidly starts talking like a dickhead, don't they? Yep, I'm part of that cult now. We'll try to keep this thread extra moderated Hindsight may always be 20/20, but Bitcoin was only $1 in 2011, and a few weeks ago, it was at a new high of $63,000. So if you'd put $100 into Bitcoin ten years ago (not an earth-shattering sum), you'd have had $6,300,000 back in April But you'd almost certainly have sold by then! Think of the temptation to sell at $100, then $1,000, then $10,000, and even $50,000. It's like trying to resist the itchiest itch you've ever experienced in your entire life: all it needs is a scratch and you're put out of your agony in an instant, so why not? The itch only becomes itchier as the price goes up. The only way a sane person is holding out in if a) you're already a millionaire, or b) you forget you bought Bitcoin and recovered your account years later (this happens more than you might think) And, of course, there are plenty of coins way, way, waaaay cheaper than Bitcoin -- some mere fractions of a dollar. Most won't go anywhere, but a few will make you a handsome profit in time. It's about picking the right ones and getting to grips with the rules of the game. The price doesn't matter; that's a mistake I once made too. The price is simply a function of the supply and the product of these gives you the market cap. The market capitalisation is the figure you want to really be keeping an eye on, as it tells you the most recent valuation of the entire cryptocurrency. It's this statistic that we use to rank and compare the progress of different cryptos. So if you take a look at CoinMarketCap, you'll see that ADA and DOGE are ranked #5 and #6 (actually #4 and #5 but that's another discussion), and yet their prices are below or just above $1, meanwhile BTC and ETH have prices in the 4 or 5 digit range. The explanation is that ADA and DOGE have a greater supply, on several orders of magnitude, and this in turn affects demand. If you take a look at the coins with the low supplies (ie in the millions) you'll notice that their price tends to be much higher. The market cap is the only barometer in town. You need not worry if you have 1 BTC, 0.1 BTC or 0.0001 BTC. You can buy whatever fraction of any coin you desire, it is very different to stocks which were only bought in whole until very recently (RobinHood etc). It also shouldn't mater what currency your making deposits with (unless you're unfortunate enough to be Venezuelan, in which case USD makes more sense). What does matters is buying what you can afford, and ideally via DCA or Dollar Cost Averaging. What you want to have your sights on is your price target, or in other words, your return on investment (ROI), which can be as % or as the multiplier in x (eg 2x, 5x etc). So if you buy NabberieFieldsCoin at $1,000, a price target of $5,000 will yield you a gain of +400% or 5x. Ideally you don't want to be selling all in one go either, especially if you've got quite a healthy stack, and so to alleviate risk you'll want to gradually sell on the way up at intervals specific to the coin (DCAing out). Cryptocurrencies in my jurisdiction are considered a Capital Gain, and I pay tax when I reach a certain threshold. I suspect it'll be a very similar situation for you, unless you've recently moved to Portugal, that is. Please do your research and be prepared to pay on time. If you're loosing money there is less worry, although it would still be wise to register losses, as you may be able to offset this against a tax bill should you be profitable in the following year. As Cryogenic hints above, patience - as in any good investment - is key. If you start to stress out after a -40% tumble, then it may be your cue that you've invested too much. Cryptocurrency are inherently volatile, and some much more so than others. You will not incur -90% in a week on the stock market, but it is absolutely possible here; Caveat emptor.
A crypto wallet is very important (eg Exodus). Please do not purchase your Crypto on RobinHood as you will not own it. Only through a wallet in which you alone have the keys will you own it. Ideally you'll have a hardware wallet (a special USB stick), but I wouldn't worry too much about that if you've only got a small amount. Platforms like Coinbase, Binance, KuCoin, Kraken, Gemeni are all safe and secure (Palpatine: society!). You can transfer your crypto back and fourth between exchange and dedicated wallet, but do note the fees you may incur for these transactions.
I hope these words are helpful to you too Subtext Mining . I don't pretend to be any expert at this, but I can say that I've been profitable so far and I'd assume that Moonshield , as a developer, will have been at this for far longer than I have. He may be able to offer us some more advice, especially on the technical side. Investopedia, as I've linked above, is a great source. Please be very wary of YouTube Crypto, 99% of it is either paid shilling, ludicrous speculation or pure BS (the clickbait thumbnails should serve as a warning). Disclaimer Invest only what you can afford to loose.
Do not borrow money or engage in margin or derivatives for cryptocurrency trading. You risk ending up severely in the negative. I am not a financial advisor. None of what I say should be considered financial advice. Please seek the opinion of others.
Promotion of pump and dumps (aka sh$tcoins) is prohibited on this site. See ProBoards rules & regulations.
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Post by Moonshield on May 25, 2021 6:16:46 GMT
One professional advice: cryptocurrencies depend on external factors more than on everything other, and external factors are totally unpredictable. Buy cryptocurrencies only when you are going to use them.
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Post by Cryogenic on May 25, 2021 13:17:41 GMT
God, anyone who gets into crypto rapidly starts talking like a dickhead, don't they? Yep, I'm part of that cult now. We'll try to keep this thread extra moderated Ha! I knew I was opening the floodgates there. That's right. There's enormous temptation to sell when you're making a profit. But if you see a reasonable gain, the better thing to do is probably withdraw a slice of it, say, 20% or something in that region. Of course, it depends on your circumstances and what you're trying to do. If you have a pressing debt, or some costs you'd like to get rid of, you might want to pull a bigger fraction out. On a dirty altcoin, if you strike it lucky, maybe you don't want to press your luck further and so you choose to take the whole lot out. But Bitcoin has been estimated to hit a million dollars in a few years. Whether it does or it doesn't, it's had tremendous gains so far. You've probably heard of the Bitcoin pizza guy: www.investopedia.com/news/bitcoin-pizza-day-celebrating-20-million-pizza-order/We have just had Bitcoin Pizza Day, in fact (May 22nd). You're right. Market capitalisation is much more important. I visit CoinMarketCap daily. I have some ADA. I missed that DOGE surge last month. My friend talked me out of buying the latter because it's a "joke coin"; though his enthusiasm for ADA seems justified. My friend has said over and over that I need to DCA. I kept kinda ignoring him (or downplaying it). But he's right. Overspending on crypto is a crime. You might as well just keep that money in your bank account. I'm starting to get a little better with it all, and I'm now trying to learn how to trade. He's been doing that a while and has gotten fairly adept and made some nice profits that way. There is a learning curve, but that goes for a lot in life. Imagine a NaberrieFieldsCoin. One professional advice: cryptocurrencies depend on external factors more than on everything other, and external factors are totally unpredictable. Buy cryptocurrencies only when you are going to use them. It's not so much buying them when you are going to use them -- quite the opposite, I think. It's buying them when you don't need them; or at least you shouldn't need them right now. That's what should prevent you putting all your money in. Because that's pretty foolish. While it's possible to turn a quick profit from crypto, it's not very wise to expect an immediate return -- or even a return at all. Crypto fluctuates a lot. You should only put in what you can afford to lose; not what you can't. Down the line, if you make a profit, it's up to you. You can keep it in and hope for greater gains, withdraw a fraction, withdraw all of it, exchange your crypto for usable tokens, trade it for other crypto currencies (or buy the same currency back at a lower rate if it dips) -- do what you want, basically. But you do have to be aware of tax obligations. You should read the tax rules for your country of residence (as Arch Duke said) and know what your liabilities are. You even need to check that your bank won't freeze your account. I was actually discussing that last night with my crypto friend. Banks are somewhat hostile to crypto. While it should be fine to transfer small amounts on and off an exchange (or, indeed, multiple exchanges), bigger amounts and anomalous activity can sometimes cause a bank to suspect fraud and lock your account. People also have trouble with an exchange letting them withdraw sometimes. That's another reason you should keep most of your money off an exchange and in a wallet (where it is also more secure). As the saying goes: don't put all your eggs in one basket. Another thing is staking. If you stake your money and want to get access to what you've staked, you may not be able to immediately relinquish it from the staking pool (per the rules of the pool). If there's an adverse price movement, you may just have to grit your teeth if you're trying to promptly dispose of your crypto or wanting to trade it. Crypto differs greatly from accumulating interest on savings in a bank account in that way. If you leave your savings alone in a bank account, the money can only go up (but only by relatively pathetic amounts these days). But with crypto, even when you gain "interest" through staking, your crypto could still plummet in value. There are risks to be aware of. But there are rewards, too.
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Post by Subtext Mining on Mar 23, 2023 15:20:48 GMT
I was curious what people's thoughts on this are now. Seems like it's been a bit tumultuous the last year or so.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Mar 24, 2023 14:21:00 GMT
I was curious what people's thoughts on this are now. Seems like it's been a bit tumultuous the last year or so.
2022 was a horrendous year, although it began to sour from November 2021 if I remember correctly. On a positive note, its been a good opportunity to start DCAing or getting into it in the first place with fallen prices.
The collapse of FTX, Bloc-Fi and a few other high profile crypto exchanges/platforms has been alarming. There's been no shortage of cries of end times for the digital currency from its detractors.
Right now, survival is the name of the game. So stay away from all the dodgy altcoins.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Apr 14, 2024 22:45:42 GMT
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Nov 16, 2024 17:25:17 GMT
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