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Post by jppiper on Jul 8, 2021 22:27:40 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Jul 9, 2021 0:08:43 GMT
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Post by Pyrogenic on Jul 9, 2021 13:12:04 GMT
Not available in this country… |
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Post by Cryogenic on Jul 9, 2021 16:35:42 GMT
Not available in this country… Really? It's from the verified Saturday Night Live YouTube channel. It's the full sketch of SNL's famous "Star Trek Convention", where William Shatner is the main guest of honour and berates the attendants to "Get a life!" Hence my highlight of the final words of Joe's rant earlier and then the dropping-in of that video link. It's a shame that so much material is blocked according to location on what should be a borderless cyber commons. Kinda ruins the joke when you have to explain it, but, oh, well. |
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Post by jppiper on Jul 12, 2021 2:28:40 GMT
Cryogenic here's one that bugs me fans saying the PT should never have been made because it ruined the Mystique of Darth Vader Boba Fett what The Clone Wars were etc.
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Post by jppiper on Aug 16, 2021 18:52:27 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 16, 2021 20:22:13 GMT
God. Why do they always sound like George Takei? |
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 16, 2021 20:25:29 GMT
Seriously. These SW videos essay people sound like autistic Nemoidians.
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Post by jppiper on Aug 16, 2021 21:37:47 GMT
Cryogenic here's one that bugs me fans saying the PT should never have been made because it ruined the Mystique of Darth Vader Boba Fett what The Clone Wars were etc. and this? |
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 16, 2021 23:26:23 GMT
Cryogenic here's one that bugs me fans saying the PT should never have been made because it ruined the Mystique of Darth Vader Boba Fett what The Clone Wars were etc. and this? is there a video? I'm not sure what you're asking. |
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Post by jppiper on Aug 17, 2021 1:03:44 GMT
stampidhd280prolike i said many think george should have never made the PT because they think it ruined vader fett and some didn't like what the clone wars were basically they think star wars was fine as one trilogy i don't think there's a video sorry
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 17, 2021 1:14:42 GMT
stampidhd280prolike i said many think george should have never made the PT because they think it ruined vader fett and some didn't like what the clone wars were basically they think star wars was fine as one trilogy i don't think there's a video sorry well, i think there's an argument for that. the mystery was part of the appeal, and you used to get these little details about the clone wars and mandalorian armor and the volcano planet, and it inspired the imagination. it was a magical time (probably because we were children) but you can't live in the past. |
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Post by jppiper on Aug 27, 2021 19:25:09 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 27, 2021 19:47:43 GMT
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Post by jppiper on Sept 4, 2021 22:55:20 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Sept 5, 2021 23:07:04 GMT
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Post by jppiper on Sept 6, 2021 1:22:07 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Sept 6, 2021 1:55:04 GMT
I think he's fucking with you. That's what he does. But why concern yourself with every last item that belittles the prequels? All us prequel fans know they're out there and we're quite familiar with the tactics and arguments commonly deployed. That video you just entered into the thread is, by your own admission/annotation, from twelve years ago. Not that you can't throw it on the junkpile here -- of course, you can. But why? What is anyone meant to say against such blatant ham and bluster? "Oooh, yeah. The guy's a genius. He spiritually founded PrequelMemes." (Or just dopey Internet snark). "He sucks and he's a big meanie poopy head.""British people! Why don't they stick to tea and crumpets and neglecting their teeth?" (Racism alert: I'm British). Well, Joe, I guess I'm kinda fucking with you, too. That video does neatly sum up how unbelievably spiteful, sanctimonious, dull, and shallow a lot of prequel criticism actually is. A ghost from the past. Remember watching it a few times before. At least it's mercifully short. But that's also a problem here. It's so short as to be ridiculous, and in effect, it is the meme/gag-compilation equivalent of the noxious Gish Gallop (GG: General Grievous) debating tactic. Also, the guy reacts to some prequel thing and recoils with the repetitious outburst, "(Fucking) what?!", or some close derivative, literally four times in roughly thirty seconds: 00:05 "Er, taxation of trade routes, huh zer huh, Trade Federation... what?"00:11 "But Master Yoda said I should be mindful of the Living Force... ver-dee-ver-dee-ver."00:35 "Darth Vader built C-3PO... fucking what?"00:37 "Midi-chlorians... fucking what?"It's what you call an argument from incredulity (i.e., not an argument at all). Basically, he can't believe it, or it seems stupid, so it must be unbelievable or stupid. I mean, when that's the level of refutation on display, allow me to stand back in awe at how he sure taught George Lucas to be ashamed of himself. Yeah. Pretending to misunderstand something, or not putting in the effort to understand it, is unfortunately something many people on the Internet have turned into an artform. Maybe this guy was ahead of the curve all along. Sadly, the jackass can't even get the quotes right. Obviously, at 00:11, that's not what Obi-Wan says. The narrator has either deliberately, or because he's a lazy, obtuse twit, smashed two separate quotes together and can't even discern that Qui-Gon is explaining to his padawan, and the viewer, that it's better to focus on the moment than getting lost in and hung up on the future. The casual insinuation of racist stereotyping more or less completes the picture in his little memetic diatribe. This guy is literally just relaying every idiotic and pitiful hater motif launched out of a cannon at these films from Day One. I can't really detect any love. Perhaps a perverse fascination that functions as a backhanded tribute to the layered, engrossing, and wacky melting pot of the PT and Star Wars generally (but the PT did it best). However, these dolts aren't trying to open hearts and minds -- they're telling people to prefer the status quo and shun anything kooky or difficult, and enjoy safety in numbers. In a way, it's exactly this inanity that led onto the way the Sequel Trilogy was handled. But that's another thread. |
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Sept 6, 2021 3:03:36 GMT
I really do think people who made detailed prequel hate videos were expressing thier love in the most socially acceptable way they could. Most casual fans just watched them once or twice and moved on, vaguely remembering things like "it looks like a cartoon" or "Jar Jar sucks". Videos like these remind me of Helga's secret shrine to Hey Arnold
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Post by Cryogenic on Sept 6, 2021 3:14:04 GMT
I really do think people who made detailed prequel hate videos were expressing thier love in the most socially acceptable way they could. Most casual fans just watched them once or twice and moved on, vaguely remembering things like "it looks like a cartoon" or "Jar Jar sucks". Videos like these remind me of Helga's secret shrine to Hey Arnold A 2:29 video isn't exactly what I'd call "detailed". It seems more like loving to hate. It reminds me a bit of how I view some non-Star Wars movies. I think we're all a bit guilty of it. But the prequels became an easy target for irate, close-minded nerds to spew their ravings and distort the discourse. Deep down, they probably enjoy them, or can't control their lust for them. It's that twisted form of love you often see in those that put down chubby women or gay people. |
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