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Post by vaccumboots on Sept 16, 2020 15:36:57 GMT
Should be amazing, probably even better than the Rick Worley video. I know the person making it and they are very well versed in film and very prequel positive. Trailer: youtu.be/3FROZ49zcMY |
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Post by Somny on Sept 16, 2020 15:58:34 GMT
Should be amazing, probably even better than the Rick Worley video. I know the person making it and they are very well versed in film and very prequel positive. youtu.be/3FROZ49zcMY
What a beautifully abstract trailer, I must say. But better than the Rick Worley video? I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by jtn90 on Sept 16, 2020 17:48:09 GMT
As far I know,The guy is friend of Rick Worley,and seeing his videos you can see he know what he is talking about,so,if no better then he will do a video with a quiality on par with Rick Worley's.
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Post by Somny on Sept 16, 2020 19:13:58 GMT
I remember now. 'Style is Substance' joined Rick Worley to interview J.W. Rinzler a month or two ago. Worley was the main host and did a markedly better job at getting his points across but they're both honorable prequelists and these videos should be definite aids to our cause. And knowing each other, the new video will more than likely be complementary. That's a tall order but I'm optimistic and excited!
By the way, that trailer just made me realize that only the Lucas-directed Star Wars films (among I-VI) feature multi-celestial orb sunsets. Very, very cool!
EDIT: No, I'm off. ROTJ features a shot at dusk with Tatooine's twin suns.
EDIT (2): Still, the Lucas sunsets are far more emphatic and dramatic.
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Post by tpf1138 on Sept 16, 2020 22:56:26 GMT
This looks very interesting.
The juxtaposition of Lalo Schifrin's score for THX1138 against images from Lucas's Star Wars pictures, particularly those images of blazing suns and burning figures, following a lineage from the setting sun images found in Lucas's 'Filmmaker' documentary and at the climax of THX itself, is actually quite inspired. Many seem to find a disconnect between those two projects, thinking Lucas guilty of having abandoned his earlier idiosyncratic artistry for commercial popularity. But, the reality is the Star Wars series, as overseen by Lucas, and particularly the four episodes he was soul director of, adhere to the same cinematic principles found in his first feature. Strip away the Saturday matinee serial veneer, and it functions the same way, and even extends and deepens the graphical vocabulary Lucas had been developing since his USC shorts.
If this brief trailer is any indication of the tone and focus of the piece it's announcing, then it might actually be a bit special.
BTW, Hi. Been hanging around for a while, but only just found I had something to add to the conversation. Slight though might be.
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Post by Somny on Sept 16, 2020 23:36:24 GMT
This looks very interesting. The juxtaposition of Lalo Schifrin's score for THX1138 against images from Lucas's Star Wars pictures, particularly those images of blazing suns and burning figures, following a lineage from the setting sun images found in Lucas's 'Filmmaker' documentary and at the climax of THX itself, is actually quite inspired. Many seem to find a disconnect between those two projects, thinking Lucas guilty of having abandoned his earlier idiosyncratic artistry for commercial popularity. But, the reality is the Star Wars series, as overseen by Lucas, and particularly the four episodes he was soul director of, adhere to the same cinematic principles found in his first feature. Strip away the Saturday matinee serial veneer, and it functions the same way, and even extends and deepens the graphical vocabulary Lucas had been developing since his USC shorts. If this brief trailer is any indication of the tone and focus of the piece it's announcing, then it might actually be a bit special.
Some of those thoughts occurred to me as well upon my first viewing of the trailer and it gave me strange and wonderful chills! You're absolutely right and your observations are not slight at all. The choice selection of music and visuals indeed reflect a deep continuity among the grand span of George Walton Lucas, Jr.'s work as an artist. Few understand such an exceptional cohesion as a feature of Lucas' body of work. But if understanding and appreciating such things were commonplace, the world would be a very different place.
In any case, 'Style is Substance' now has my rapt attention.
And thanks for your contribution, tpf1138! I'm sure I speak for everyone here at Naberrie Fields Ж when I say that.
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Post by tpf1138 on Sept 17, 2020 13:21:24 GMT
Few understand such an exceptional cohesion as a feature of Lucas' body of work. But if understanding and appreciating such things were commonplace, the world would be a very different place. Well, few, if any, bother to look for thematic and cinematic cohesion across Lucas's filmography. It's common practice when discussing a filmmaker's output, to look for through lines, to discern a unifying thesis for the the work. But, as I noted above, the major effort has largely been to separate the George Lucas who made Star Wars from the wunderkind who turned out THX1138 and American Graffiti. Searching for a unifying thesis that binds those movies into an oeuvre then, is entirely antithetical. So, the work of one of the most influential and important American filmmakers has gone largely unexamined.... for now.
And thanks for your contribution, tpf1138! I'm sure I speak for everyone here at Naberrie Fields Ж when I say that. You're very kind. |
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Post by Ingram on Sept 17, 2020 20:50:29 GMT
This looks very interesting. The juxtaposition of Lalo Schifrin's score for THX1138 against images from Lucas's Star Wars pictures, particularly those images of blazing suns and burning figures, following a lineage from the setting sun images found in Lucas's 'Filmmaker' documentary and at the climax of THX itself, is actually quite inspired. Many seem to find a disconnect between those two projects, thinking Lucas guilty of having abandoned his earlier idiosyncratic artistry for commercial popularity. But, the reality is the Star Wars series, as overseen by Lucas, and particularly the four episodes he was soul director of, adhere to the same cinematic principles found in his first feature. Strip away the Saturday matinee serial veneer, and it functions the same way, and even extends and deepens the graphical vocabulary Lucas had been developing since his USC shorts. This.
I never understood the disassociation critics made, rather lazily, with Star Wars and Lucas' freshman efforts. It's all right there. American Graffiti likewise is a bricklaying of the directors trademark audiovisual abstractions dressed up (and souped up) in pedestrian period youth-culture. One can nary find a more organic evolution from Lucas' short films to his 1971 feature-length debut to kids cruising around Modesto to a galaxy far, far away... It's all right there.
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Post by Moonshield on Sept 18, 2020 5:22:47 GMT
Should be amazing, probably even better than the Rick Worley video. I know the person making it and they are very well versed in film and very prequel positive. youtu.be/3FROZ49zcMYBetter than Rick Worley is hard to make, I have to admit. I don't know if I should continue my own research. |
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Post by tpf1138 on Sept 18, 2020 12:58:58 GMT
I never understood the disassociation critics made, rather lazily, with Star Wars and Lucas' freshman efforts... It's done in support of a thesis, advanced most forcefully by Peter Biskind in his book, Easy Riders & Raging Bulls, which examines the American New Wave period and holds George Lucas (and Steven Spielberg) responsible for destroying it and infantalising American cinema. Its a thesis that ignores the fact that all of the major studios were bought out by corporations at the end of the seventies and early eighties (corporation that were only interested in bottom lines), and that successive large scale auteurist features with massive budgets, from Scorsese's New York, New York, to Spielberg's 1941, to Cimino's Heaven's Gate (which bankrupted United Artists) went crashing spectacularly into the ground, one after the other. The thesis argues that Lucas abandoned his artistic impulses after the success of Star Wars in favour of rampant commerciality and avarice. For that to make sense it's crucial that the creative intentions fueling THX1138 and American Graffiti be disconnected from those driving the Star Wars project. In truth though, Lucas's only crime was finding success with a fantasy film at a moment when audiences, and the entertainment press, were rejecting the 70s auteurs. |
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Post by tpf1138 on Sept 18, 2020 16:18:39 GMT
Better than Rick Worley is hard to make, I have to admit. It's definitely possible to go deeper than Worley did. His video presents a rigorous and compelling overview, but there is so much more to unpack on a granular level. |
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Post by vaccumboots on Oct 9, 2020 15:32:56 GMT
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Post by Somny on Jan 3, 2021 4:33:15 GMT
I watched this in its entirety upon its release several months ago and I have to admit - I was left a bit disappointed. I wish I had the time to dissect its contents proper (a tall, tall order) but I found it really didn't hold a candle to the variety, substance and considerable revelatory power (to many others, I'm sure) of Rick Worley's own multi-hour video analysis. However, I will say one striking takeaway for me was its pointing out that Darth Maul doesn't blink throughout the entirety of his appearance except for one very telegraphed instance when he is halved by Obi-Wan at the end of the film. I never realized this. Mind blown! |
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Post by thephantomcalamari on Jan 4, 2021 12:49:14 GMT
I watched this in its entirety upon its release several months ago and I have to admit - I was left a bit disappointed. I wish I had the time to dissect its contents proper (a tall, tall order) but I found it really didn't hold a candle to the variety, substance and considerable revelatory power (to many others, I'm sure) of Rick Worley's own multi-hour video analysis. However, I will say one striking takeaway for me was its pointing out that Darth Maul doesn't blink throughout the entirety of his appearance except for one very telegraphed instance when he is halved by Obi-Wan at the end of the film. I never realized this. Mind blown!I disagreed with several parts of it, but overall I think it made some interesting points (like the Maul thing you mention, for instance). |
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Post by Somny on Jan 4, 2021 18:37:21 GMT
I watched this in its entirety upon its release several months ago and I have to admit - I was left a bit disappointed. I wish I had the time to dissect its contents proper (a tall, tall order) but I found it really didn't hold a candle to the variety, substance and considerable revelatory power (to many others, I'm sure) of Rick Worley's own multi-hour video analysis. However, I will say one striking takeaway for me was its pointing out that Darth Maul doesn't blink throughout the entirety of his appearance except for one very telegraphed instance when he is halved by Obi-Wan at the end of the film. I never realized this. Mind blown!I disagreed with several parts of it, but overall I think it made some interesting points (like the Maul thing you mention, for instance).
Yes, there were some pockets of novel insight (the racial coding part, in particular) but, on the whole, I recall the majority of the video feeling like a fairly basic retread of TPM from the perspective of each character. At least that was my read as a long-time prequelist.
The trailer promised something far more visually interesting and engaged with the rest of Lucas' filmography. Still, it's wonderful that these videos exist. The PT deserves them and more.
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