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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Sept 30, 2023 21:28:38 GMT
Some OBK press tour footage in this meme
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Post by tonyg on Feb 12, 2024 22:15:42 GMT
I saw the so called Peterson cut that makes the show into a film by one of the "original" editors.I would say K. Peterson did a great job converting the show in a decent movie, there are still things that I dislike but they come from the plot and I don't know if they can ever be avoided in the editing room. However, this cut proves that Lucas was right to rely heavy on the editing.
Things I liked: the flashbacks of the prequels that came in the right moments (yeah, I know, Lucas avoided flashbacks but this is a spin off). Even the younglings in the Jedi temple scene was re-edited I would say in the right place. Moses Ingram scenes were reduced: is not that I dislike her but in this edit her role looks more realistic and "embedded" in the story, also the accent is on Obi Wan as it should be. And also, of course, on Obi Wan and Anakin/Vader. The Luke subplot was cut: it was unnecessary at this point. If they continue the story, they could focus on Luke.
And here come some things I didn't like. I do not think that Obi Wan should leave Tattoine for Leia. Ok, maybe Leia is the only reason he could leave but I still think they should concentrate on his life on Tattoine.
Otherwise, the Leia's subplot itself is good in the version of Paterson's cut but here comes the show biggest problem: it looks anachronistic. What I mean is mostly Obi Wan ignorance of Vader survival. There is no way that in ten years Obi Wan couldn't understand that that Vader exists, even when he is isolated in Tattoine. And the most ridiculous thing is that everyone, even in Tattoine knows about the inquisitors, but not about Vader (yeah, sure). Not to mention the role of Bail Organa who acts like Anakin perished and he has no idea who Vader is (sure). Is uncle Owen who could not know at this point that Vader is Anakin (as we see it in the movie) but not Bail. He is living in the center of the Empire after all and the Jedi (Obi Wan and Yoda) would be the greatest fools by not telling him the whole truth. This is the weakest point of the show in my opinion and is impossible to overcome it through editing. Is just crucial part of the plot, but weak part.
Some viewers commented that Leia's actress acts like 5 years old and I think it would be better if she is playing 5 and 10 years old Leia. Then everything will be on its place, it wouldn't be anachronistic. Also, Bail could be the person who could tell Obi Wan that Anakin survived, in fact this could be his great motivation to leave Tattoine (and not some abstract ideas as "one last fight"). There are other irritating scenes which Patterson recut as, for example, Vader torturing civilians for no reason: is not that he cares about some random citizens, but he couldn't waste his time to torturing civilians with no goal. In fact, I would cut every scene in which he kills them and I would leave only the torture with the obvious reasons to expose Obi Wan (Patterson recut this but I would even change it more) and things like that that came from the weak plot but still, it is a decent edit. Also, too much unnecessary killing: by the part of the good guys. There is scene where a Rebel disguised like imperial officer (more precisely said she is an officer, working for a rebel group) shoot and obviously kills stormtroopers who are treated like droids in this movie: disposable and replaceable as resource and not as people. I would prefer that she stunned them: after all they need to buy time and killing the stormtroopers couldn't "cover" their tracks and the troopers didn't expected the officer to be on the other side, so there was no battle. I think Lucas avoided such scenes when he could.
Obi Wan and Vader shouldn't meet directly in my opinion. I know this is fan service so at least 2 of three encounters should be in visions and the third should be short while spectacular, but even the recut which is well made couldn't save this. I would left Qui Gon appearance in the end, but maybe the editor is fan of the concept for Qui Gon to be only a voice and that's why he cut it. However it is the better version of the show, for now.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Feb 17, 2024 23:37:04 GMT
Good video here about the upcoming Christensen interview with Empire magazine
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Feb 29, 2024 3:14:25 GMT
They really should have aged him more.
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Post by jppiper on Feb 29, 2024 6:37:55 GMT
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Feb 29, 2024 14:53:56 GMT
Kenobi, in the show
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Post by tonyg on Mar 3, 2024 8:52:26 GMT
All the context of the show suppose that this should happen no more than 5 years after Revenge of the Sith. For five years Kenobi would know that Vader is alive, even living in Tattoine. Leia could be five and her role wouldn't change a bit. The plot is weak, that is the problem of the show. It has some good ideas, but it should be elaborated more. In this cut the editor did what he can but it wasn't possible to rewrite the plot.
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Mar 3, 2024 9:18:50 GMT
All the context of the show suppose that this should happen no more than 5 years after Revenge of the Sith. For five years Kenobi would know that Vader is alive, even living in Tattoine. Leia could be five and her role wouldn't change a bit. The plot is weak, that is the problem of the show. It has some good ideas, but it should be elaborated more. In this cut the editor did what he can but it wasn't possible to rewrite the plot. I'm just saying, even if the plot did work, Obi-Wan should have had more gray in his beard.
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Post by jppiper on Mar 3, 2024 18:53:06 GMT
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Post by smittysgelato on Mar 3, 2024 20:21:15 GMT
All the context of the show suppose that this should happen no more than 5 years after Revenge of the Sith. For five years Kenobi would know that Vader is alive, even living in Tattoine. Leia could be five and her role wouldn't change a bit. The plot is weak, that is the problem of the show. It has some good ideas, but it should be elaborated more. In this cut the editor did what he can but it wasn't possible to rewrite the plot. I'm just saying, even if the plot did work, Obi-Wan should have had more gray in his beard. Ewan is so well preserved. I suspect he may have learned the power to influence the midi-chlorians. That's right, Vader. Not only does he have the high ground, he also has the power to cheat death!
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Mar 7, 2024 23:41:17 GMT
I'm just saying, even if the plot did work, Obi-Wan should have had more gray in his beard. Ewan is so well preserved. I suspect he may have learned the power to influence the midi-chlorians. That's right, Vader. Not only does he have the high ground, he also has the power to cheat death!
For me, Guinness' Obi-Wan has always came across as a good 30-40 years older than McGregor's version. It doesn't bother me too much, I can suspend disbelieve and ponder about the ageing process of a galaxy far, far away.
It seemed like on this show, the producers went "f-ck it, nobody believes the 19 year age gap anyway, and McGregor is in a good shape, might as well have him looking fresh and youthful in this"
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Post by jppiper on Mar 8, 2024 1:38:59 GMT
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on Mar 12, 2024 10:51:17 GMT
This series gets a lot of hate, but it's my second favorite Disney output after TLJ. I guess I relate on some level to the "hero past his prime rediscovers his will to fight" trope used in both. I find that these two stories have a capacity to light the fire inside the human soul, at least in mine. I'm very excited to finally own this series in all its physical glory when it's soon released as a beautiful steelbook.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Mar 18, 2024 16:50:39 GMT
The complete series?! I guess there won't be a season two then?
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on Mar 18, 2024 16:59:53 GMT
The complete series?! I guess there won't be a season two then? That's what I made notice of as well. The Andor steelbook release says "The Complete First Season." That pretty much confirms there won't be any continuation of Obi-Wan. I'm kind of disappointed. They had interesting directions to go with Obi-Wan reconnecting with Qui-Gon, which I would have loved to see more of. Oh well.
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Post by Somny on Mar 18, 2024 17:09:16 GMT
Studios can always pivot away from what's merely inscribed on home video packaging. When it comes to SW, we should know well enough by now that nothing is ever written in stone - or steel.
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on Mar 18, 2024 17:47:06 GMT
Studios can always pivot away from what's merely inscribed on home video packaging. When it comes to SW, we should know well enough by now that nothing is ever written in stone - or steel. Yeah, you're absolutely right, now that I think about it. Star Wars on Blu-ray was "The Complete Saga" until it wasn't, and it became "The Skywalker Saga" with three new films added. Still, I would guess that we aren't going to see a new season of Obi's show any time soon.
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Post by ArchdukeOfNaboo on Mar 18, 2024 18:43:38 GMT
Studios can always pivot away from what's merely inscribed on home video packaging. When it comes to SW, we should know well enough by now that nothing is ever written in stone - or steel. Yeah, you're absolutely right, now that I think about it. Star Wars on Blu-ray was "The Complete Saga" until it wasn't, and it became "The Skywalker Saga" with three new films added. Still, I would guess that we aren't going to see a new season of Obi's show any time soon.
McGregor was recently (within the past 2 months) pushing for a second season, was he not? I'm not sure if I shared a link about it anywhere here.
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Post by Cryogenic on Apr 6, 2024 9:39:58 GMT
This series gets a lot of hate, but it's my second favorite Disney output after TLJ. I guess I relate on some level to the "hero past his prime rediscovers his will to fight" trope used in both. I find that these two stories have a capacity to light the fire inside the human soul, at least in mine. I'm very excited to finally own this series in all its physical glory when it's soon released as a beautiful steelbook. Nice thoughts. And lovely artwork.
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Post by Seeker of the Whills on Apr 11, 2024 14:42:03 GMT
This series gets a lot of hate, but it's my second favorite Disney output after TLJ. I guess I relate on some level to the "hero past his prime rediscovers his will to fight" trope used in both. I find that these two stories have a capacity to light the fire inside the human soul, at least in mine. I'm very excited to finally own this series in all its physical glory when it's soon released as a beautiful steelbook. Nice thoughts. And lovely artwork. I'm a sucker for steelbooks, especially ones that have exclusive art like this. I saw the Mandalorian steelbook in the movie store I use, and almost bought it just for the cover. But I ended up saving my money for this Obi-Wan steelbook. The series is very flawed, but I felt a spark of creativity at the very least. Rogue One, Solo, Mando, Boba Fett, etc. They all kind of meld together in my mind and aren't very distinguishable. Obi-Wan and TLJ had something that sets them apart for me.
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