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Post by Alexrd on Aug 2, 2022 8:22:50 GMT
Very tasteful. 5/5
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Post by Cryogenic on Aug 2, 2022 22:39:48 GMT
Somny I'm Watching it anyone else who has Vice should as well and talk about it And now this description for the episode on TPM After more than a decade on ice. "Star Wars" returns with impossible expectations: the new "Star Wars" trilogy attempts to re-create the original magic without George Lucas' partner, Marcia, at his side. WTF?!!! They never stop, do they? You've done well to alert us to this, Joe. There's no reason for me to watch that pathetic excuse for a documentary anymore. Thanks for saving me the time. EDIT: Joe was talking about the VICE documentary above. I misread his remarks and assumed he was talking about the newly-released ILM documentary on Disney+.
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Post by jppiper on Aug 2, 2022 23:10:20 GMT
Cryogenic So did you watch the first 3 parts?
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Post by Cryogenic on Aug 2, 2022 23:26:04 GMT
Cryogenic So did you watch the first 3 parts? No, Joe. I forgot it was coming out. I've been having a bit of a break from Star Wars and all things Disney. I won't watch it now, not after what you said, and also what smittysgelato said in the main ILM doc thread. EDIT: Oops. A different documentary made by a different party is being referred to above. I was confused and thought that everything said here related to the ILM documentary on Disney+.
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Post by Ingram on Aug 4, 2022 7:44:24 GMT
Easy: she doesn't land in the saddle groin first, but rather she half-lands on her feet before instantly sliding apart and thus slowing her fall just a fraction enough to make a difference.
It's an old stunt-cowboy trick.
We can finally put this one to bed.
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 5, 2022 5:29:27 GMT
My answer has always been that Padme's pussy is the best pussy in the galaxy, so of course, it can withstand the impact.
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Post by jppiper on Aug 6, 2022 1:19:26 GMT
Cryogenic So did you watch the first 3 parts? No, Joe. I forgot it was coming out. I've been having a bit of a break from Star Wars and all things Disney. I won't watch it now, not after what you said, and also what smittysgelato said in the main ILM doc thread. I Decided that i will not watch the last 2 Parts. it'll just be 2 hours of petty Mean-Spirited Lucas and Prequel Bashing And Anthony Daniels like David Prowse before him is an Ungrateful Bastard!
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Post by jppiper on Aug 6, 2022 5:46:37 GMT
CryogenicNow the description for the final episode which will cover AOTC and ROTS With "The Phantom Menace" leaving many fans cold, Lucas was at his lowest with two more films still to be made.
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 6, 2022 6:00:34 GMT
Sounds like a great moment to rewatch The Prequels Strike Back.
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Post by Cryogenic on Aug 6, 2022 10:33:19 GMT
Cryogenic Now the description for the final episode which will cover AOTC and ROTS With "The Phantom Menace" leaving many fans cold, Lucas was at his lowest with two more films still to be made. So now these assholes are mind readers, as well? Screw this silly, toxic documentary with its trash-talking, low-brow, virtue-signalling condescension. Just another oh-so-inclusive piece of tripe from the Disney/leftist collective. EDIT: Sorry, I got this one wrong. For once, Disney isn't guilty of sinning here. These descriptions relate to a different documentary by an unrelated party.
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Post by nickromancer on Aug 6, 2022 17:37:50 GMT
Cryogenic Now the description for the final episode which will cover AOTC and ROTS With "The Phantom Menace" leaving many fans cold, Lucas was at his lowest with two more films still to be made. So now these assholes are mind readers, as well? Screw this silly, toxic documentary with its trash-talking, low-brow, virtue-signalling condescension. Just another oh-so-inclusive piece of tripe from the Disney/leftist collective. Nigga you are wilding every time you associate Disney with leftism. I saw you say they should stop being ideological, but all art necsssrily is an ideology, so of course Disney’s ideology will always manifest in its media, but that ideology isn’t social justice/communism, it’s capitalist post modern ideology which pretends to be socially progressive because people like social justice
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Post by stampidhd280pro on Aug 6, 2022 18:19:11 GMT
So now these assholes are mind readers, as well? Screw this silly, toxic documentary with its trash-talking, low-brow, virtue-signalling condescension. Just another oh-so-inclusive piece of tripe from the Disney/leftist collective. Nigga you are wilding every time you associate Disney with leftism. I saw you say they should stop being ideological, but all art necsssrily is an ideology, so of course Disney’s ideology will always manifest in its media, but that ideology isn’t social justice/communism, it’s capitalist post modern ideology which pretends to be socially progressive because people like social justice so in other words, the leftist collective
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 6, 2022 19:12:19 GMT
Well, the whole left vs. right distinction in politics is outdated. Left and right are spatial metaphors. Ever since Einstein stated that time is relative, time has become a more appropriate source of metaphor. So, the left is more trajective, while the right is more prejective.
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Post by Cryogenic on Aug 6, 2022 19:17:48 GMT
So now these assholes are mind readers, as well? Screw this silly, toxic documentary with its trash-talking, low-brow, virtue-signalling condescension. Just another oh-so-inclusive piece of tripe from the Disney/leftist collective. Nigga you are wilding every time you associate Disney with leftism. I saw you say they should stop being ideological, but all art necsssrily is an ideology, so of course Disney’s ideology will always manifest in its media, but that ideology isn’t social justice/communism, it’s capitalist post modern ideology which pretends to be socially progressive because people like social justice Well, it appears you like to push the boundaries yourself. When I typed the word "nigga" into The Free Dictionary, I was confronted with a warning (which I've never seen before): "Note: This page may contain content that is offensive or inappropriate for some readers.": www.thefreedictionary.com/niggaThe Merriam-Webster dictionary, on the other hand, offers a "complete" definition, but it is also laced with warnings that the word is typically held to be offensive in modern usage: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/niggaOf course, I don't know your skin colour, but given the relatively "colourless" environment of a message board, and the fact that social media companies are now suspending people for word usage, your casual deployment of an offensive term is interesting as a scold of someone (i.e., myself) who argues in favour of freedom of speech -- while you seem to be downplaying the whole issue. My point here is that the very freedom you're so casual about losing, or of other people pointing out is being eroded, is being lost, day by day, and many of the people at LFL/Disney seem to have hitched their wagon in that direction. On TFN, as I've pointed out several times, you're not allowed to call Rey a "Mary Sue", for instance, while it is perfectly acceptable for a self-proclaimed third-wave feminist moderator (who conjured the same rule) to accuse male posters mid-argument of "mansplainin'". People with an ideological agenda, obsessed with limiting speech and other behaviours, are inevitably full of the very sins/indulgences they pre-emptively rebuke and self-righteously punish others for. And they love power. And most of these people lean left. Hence the term "leftist fascist" that I've started using recently. Apparently, you think Disney is pretending to be woke. I prefer a sliding scale rather than a binary choice. I contend that the Disney corporation is faking the whole social-justice thing on some level, but that many of its employees -- or the mouthy, high-placed ones ranting away on Twitter -- consider themselves to be very progressive, and roundly intolerant of attitudes and opinions that differ from their own, just like the aforementioned third-wave feminist moderator on TFN. Thus, whether Disney is being entirely honest or not, when it clothes itself in SJW/communistic ideas, is beside the point. And in any case, many SJWs are full of hypocrisy (again: consider the aforementioned moderator), risibly condemning others for the very crimes that they themselves commit. The whole SJW movement, in fact, is antithetical to real progress, because many of its adherents are apologists and gatekeepers for exactly the kind of capitalist tyranny and repressive falsehoods they claim to want to rid the world of. On TFN, for instance, I was mocked as a "tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist" for pointing out Disney/LFL's mendacious, self-serving anti-prequel agenda (which is clearly still in effect), and later banned when I criticised Kathleen Kennedy's manicured, supercilious attitude to the prequels and to George Lucas himself (because criticising these woke fascists' media messiahs, especially when they're women, isn't allowed). Finally, you claim that "people like social justice". Some people do, of course. But you can find some people liking almost anything. Humans are diverse. Truly diverse. Not in the limited, crooked way that SJWs mean when they use the term. I dispute the notion that it's a majority of people. After all, a good deal of the world's human population is still illiterate and lives in abject poverty. There are many people who are either apathetic to social justice ideology or who dislike it or are flat-out repulsed by it. It should be kept in mind that a lot of people are probably concealing their true opinions, so as not to start disagreements at work or with friends and family, and because of the real risk of being censored or cancelled online (and even, in some cases, in real-life). Just the other day, in fact, here in the UK, a middle-aged man was arrested by British police for posting a meme on Twitter: www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irishman-arrested-uk-causing-anxiety-27639423This is what we're now dealing with in 2022. Freedom of speech is almost gone and we are truly living in Orwellian times. If people at LFL/Disney were merely anti-prequel, well, fine. That would be lame and terrible enough. But it's a lot worse than that. Obviously, if someone doesn't like the prequels, that doesn't make them a dirtbag/moron/fascist/terrorist (well, to anyone with half a functioning brain, at least). However, the people at LFL/Disney co-opted this Internet-driven disdain for their own purposes, capitalising on it to sell their own products and push their own agenda. In part, the prequels are totemically invoked as an example of Star Wars gone wrong; which the great and mighty Disney, with its superior technology (socially, culturally, economically, etc.), is perpetually striving to avoid repeating. Moreover, some of the gone wrongness of the prequels is implied to lurk in the films' problematic attitudes toward race and gender, especially in terms of the Dickensian storytelling mode/tropes used by Lucas in TPM. We needn't beat around the bush here. Every week, a new clickbait article emerges on how "offensive stereotypes" were packed into the movies (deliberately or otherwise), and how "unfortunate" it was that Padme "lost the will to live" in childbirth because she was "codependent" with Anakin (one of the greatest crimes in these modern SJW times is for a woman to become attached to her partner/husband). Ergo, every time the prequels are tacitly bashed in Disney interviews and Disney programmes, remember, in the words of the Joker, that it's all part of the plan. People are meant to to hold the opinion that the prequels are an awkward and outsider-ish aspect of the Star Wars franchise: a creative misfire from an eccentric loner who doesn't understand the ways of the world, whose excesses went unchecked because nobody dared to stand up to him or question some of his more outrageous ideas. It is perfectly rational for the woke outfit of LFL/Disney to punch down at the prequels. The sins/excesses of old regimes are always useful to new ones. When new individuals and collectives rise to power, or seize it from the hands of their predecessors, they need a proximate comparison to prove to themselves, and the people they rule over (or are attempting to rule over -- ruling over a population is always relative and fragmentary, never concrete and total), that their rule is legitimate and a good thing for the society. So people ought to accept it or else. This is why LFL/Disney won't let go of bashing the prequels or stop shunning them in some capacity. Their propaganda doesn't work without an inferior object to define that propaganda against. It really is the measure of how retarded the world has become, and how much has been lost (or willfully obscured and misunderstood), since George sold in 2012. Art may never be free of ideology entirely; but good art stems from honest self-expression and having something to say. In other words, it is more than commercial pap contorted into something politically virtuous where critics of that product must be vilified and purged.
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Post by smittysgelato on Aug 6, 2022 19:58:51 GMT
I like my free speech, but when it comes to the n-word I don't know why anyone would want to use it (including black people) because it is such an ugly word.
Sometimes I wonder what Lucasfilm's attitude towards the Prequels and even towards George himself is going to be like once George is gone (I rue the day). Right now they're still somewhat friendly towards him (visiting the Mando set, etc.), but then you have Kathy making comments about getting back to REAL filmmaking. So one wonders, once George is gone, is the negative attitude towards the Prequels going to be totally unrestrained?
Also...I always wonder where Cryo gets the energy for his long-form expression. It is amazing haha.
Edit: Both TPM and AOTC got 20th Anniversary Panels at Celebration. So again, the attitude at Lucasfilm is obviously not 100 percent negative.
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Post by jppiper on Aug 6, 2022 20:06:02 GMT
smittysgelato Maybe we should move these comments somewhere else. and People saying there were Racist caricatures in the Prequels are full of Crap!
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Post by Cryogenic on Aug 6, 2022 20:41:10 GMT
I like my free speech, but when it comes to the n-word I don't know why anyone would want to use it (including black people) because it is such an ugly word. Basically, yah. Luckily, the whole disapproving attitude toward the n-word and its variants did lead, years ago, to this hilarious video originally posted on eBaum's World: Title: Teacher Explains the word "Nigga" Channel: dodiet Uploaded: 10 Feb 2006 Description (sic): WHAS news story about a high school teacher who got in trouble for calling one of his african-american students a nigga. Just listen to his examples. Hillarious It is a very amusing video. While the teacher seems like a well-meaning, good ol' soul, he inadvertently hoists himself by his own petard. Watching him explain himself is the very definition of awkward. Awkward, and yes, hilarious. Weirdly, it's not on eBaum's World anymore. There is a listing for it, but the listing is later than the YouTube upload. They evidently re-tooled their site years ago and it's nothing like it once was. Before YouTube existed, it was the go-to place for funny and bizarre videos. *sigh* It was a more innocent time. www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/teacher-says-nigga/80649730/Nevertheless, from there, I quite like this comment: Back to you: I don't know. I will say it's sad to see George looking and sounding a little bit frail these days. In this video from last year, he suddenly seems much older: Title: Boba Fett Under the Helmet: George Lucas Interview | Disney+ Channel: Star Wars Coffee Uploaded: 12 Nov 2021 In this more recent one from a few months ago, he's struggling to walk. It's possible he just sprained his ankle or something, but George looks pretty enfeebled here: Title: George Lucas arriving & being helped by his security in NYC Lastnight #georgelucas #starwars 041922 Channel: 247paps.tv Uploaded: 19 Apr 2022 Many people in the comments to both videos seem to recognise that something is wrong. Of course, GL is approaching 80. We need to be realistic. LOL. I take Vitamin E. (Stole that pun from Elvis). I dunno. I have too much free time on my hands. And I get too goddamn fired up about some issues. I blame the Force! Oh, it's not unrelentingly negative. One might even claim there has been some improvement recently. Still, for me, it's a case of too little, too late.
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Post by jppiper on Aug 6, 2022 20:57:09 GMT
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Post by Cryogenic on Aug 7, 2022 19:55:26 GMT
NOTE: There was apparently a misinterpretation/misreading here (committed by myself) about Marcia Lucas and her name being invoked against her ex-husband (George Lucas) and the prequels in a Disney programme. I have been informed that this does not happen in the ILM documentary on Disney+, but in a separate third-party documentary from VICE. However, Kathleen Kennedy does resort to the "real filmmaking" canard in the ILM documentary, so most of my diatribe above, given this and other historical examples of anti-prequel propaganda from Disney, still applies.
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Post by Ingram on Aug 8, 2022 9:46:47 GMT
I like my free speech, but when it comes to the n-word I don't know why anyone would want to use it (including black people) because it is such an ugly word. Cant say it ever bothered me; a versus er, at least, as the former comes with a certain tradition of scrappy empowerment. It can still be used in poor taste or with a deficit in artfulness but, where so, the criticism then is towards such context, not the word itself. I don't even think Nick was being inappropriate necessarily. Then again, I'm not exactly a "conscious" guy that way so maybe my judgment on the matter is obsolete. Probably is.
I will say, however ↴
Speaking as a Cap, there's so much fun to be had here.
I kinda like Nick for goin' balls-out with that sorta take. You guys crack me up. I mean, did anyone catch Smitty's comment in this thread a few days back? My answer has always been that Padme's 😸 is the best 😸 in the galaxy, so of course, it can withstand the impact. lol - Jesus, Smitty.
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